Kesubos 29a, Soncino's Textual Criticism |
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 Oct 1 2007, 04:51 PM
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QUOTE ואלו נערות שיש להן קנס: הבא על הממזרת, ועל הנתינה, ועל הכותית; הבא על הגיורת, ועל השבויה, ועל השפחה, שנפדו, ושנתגיירו, ושנשתחררו פחותות מבנות שלוש שנים ויום אחד. הבא על אחותו, ועל אחות אביו, ועל אחות אימו, ועל אחות אשתו, ועל אשת אחיו, ועל אשת אחי אביו, ועל הנידה--יש להם קנס: שאף על פי שהן בהיכרת, אין בהן מיתת בית דין. So we all know that the clauses in the Mishna are inconsistent; I don't think I've ever heard a reason why. In the footnote of Soncino it says that it's because the shenis-'s are going in ascending order of syllables: נפדו has two, נתגיירו has three, and נשתחררו has four. Considering mishnayos were (arguably) designed to be memorized, I found this interesting.
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Oct 7 2007, 04:59 PM
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 Gabbai  Group: Members Posts: 431 Joined: 30-January 03 From: Far Rockaway Member No.: 3 |
i dont think it's meant to be a in a 'respective' format. it's probably like you are explaining it : according to their syllables (or length of the word).
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Nov 13 2007, 07:47 PM
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 Hocker  Group: Members Posts: 187 Joined: 3-December 04 Member No.: 860 |
QUOTE (adiel @ Oct 8 2007, 07:59 AM)  i dont think it's meant to be a in a 'respective' format. it's probably like you are explaining it : according to their syllables (or length of the word). So why didn't they word it as follows: הבא על השבויה , ועל הגיורת, ועל השפחה, שנפדו, ושנתגיירו, ושנשתחררו - then you'd have the incremental syllables, and it would be consistent. -------------------- "Mens Sana in Corpore Sano" (Juvenal)
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Nov 14 2007, 02:43 PM
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 Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 5,740 Joined: 12-December 05 Member No.: 2,104 |
In case you were wondering, the Soncino Kesubbos was done by Samuel Daiches, who taught at Jews' College. Thus, the note was either his or R. Isidore Epstein (who was general editor of the whole project).
Who was Samuel Daiches? Well, I don't know much, but here is his obituary (3-22-49, London Times): 
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