See through shirts, tznius al pi halacha and society? |
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See through shirts, tznius al pi halacha and society? |
Jun 2 2008, 07:29 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 3,394 Joined: 2-August 05 From: brooklyn, ny Member No.: 1,702 |
I'm sure most of you know these types of shirts; the long-sleeved layering tees that are translucent and meant to be worn over something more substantial. Are these tznius, given that you can see through the shirt? What about when paired with a cami; are you al pi halacha covered, even if you can see skin through the shirt in areas the cami doesn't cover?
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Jun 2 2008, 07:31 PM
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How see-through are you talking about? Most shirts when worn with a cami have an obvious difference in color when it comes to sleeves. But is that see-through? On mine it's just not as bright a shade of white as the double layer.
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Jun 2 2008, 07:37 PM
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I'm sure most of you know these types of shirts; the long-sleeved layering tees that are translucent and meant to be worn over something more substantial. Are these tznius, given that you can see through the shirt? What about when paired with a cami; are you al pi halacha covered, even if you can see skin through the shirt in areas the cami doesn't cover? I think you should just wear the see through shirt with nothing more than your bra, after all, I hear see through shirts are the new black. |
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Jun 2 2008, 07:39 PM
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Nope,
I know what you're talking about and they're pretty see-through. |
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Jun 2 2008, 07:49 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 16,833 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
h0tt!!!
oh wait, that wasn't the question. Never mind..... -------------------- [/flirting]
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Jun 2 2008, 07:58 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 6,156 Joined: 30-March 04 Member No.: 466 |
I'm sure most of you know these types of shirts; the long-sleeved layering tees that are translucent and meant to be worn over something more substantial. Rambam Dayos 5:9 [The Rambam addressing the dress of a learned sage] QUOTE לא יהא בשרו נראה מתחת מדיו כמו בגדי הפשתן הקלים ביותר שעושים במצרים
One's flesh should not be visible through or seen from under one's clothing, as is possible with the clothes of very thin linen made in Egypt -------------------- .כלל הדבר, כי ראוי שיהיה השכל בן חורין -מהר"ל בחיד"א
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Jun 3 2008, 09:38 AM
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Resisting imamother, resisting imamother, resisting imamother .. Group: Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 20-October 05 Member No.: 1,939 |
you can easily line such shirts. i do.
-------------------- Exist's friend's song, to the tune of The Star Spangled Banner
Let's say you can see, A hot and cold sink, Where so proudly, we wash, For netilas yadayim Whose filtered waters and bright shine, Through this mitzva'dig time, O'er our hands, we watch, Gallons of water streaming. And the hot water from here, gets filled with cold water down there, So don't turn on the hot water, or more will be boiled somewhere. Oh say does that negel vasser towel yet dry, Our cold and wet hands, and now we know the reason why! |
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Jun 11 2008, 02:21 AM
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Gabbai Group: Members Posts: 921 Joined: 2-August 06 From: Seattle, WA Member No.: 3,153 |
If you can't wear a see through shirt, why can you wear stockings?
-------------------- I think love means sometimes saying you're sorry even when you're not. -chaimsmom
Rabbis are halachic guides, they aren't there to be surrogate brains.-Shemmy |
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Jun 11 2008, 09:41 AM
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Resisting imamother, resisting imamother, resisting imamother .. Group: Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 20-October 05 Member No.: 1,939 |
Stockings are a good enough cover for the lower legs, as the shok is not clearly defined in halacha.
-------------------- Exist's friend's song, to the tune of The Star Spangled Banner
Let's say you can see, A hot and cold sink, Where so proudly, we wash, For netilas yadayim Whose filtered waters and bright shine, Through this mitzva'dig time, O'er our hands, we watch, Gallons of water streaming. And the hot water from here, gets filled with cold water down there, So don't turn on the hot water, or more will be boiled somewhere. Oh say does that negel vasser towel yet dry, Our cold and wet hands, and now we know the reason why! |
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Jun 11 2008, 09:42 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 34,143 Joined: 2-September 03 Member No.: 239 |
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Jun 11 2008, 09:47 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 16,833 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
IOW if your b00bs were on your legs you would have to cover them with more than stockings, but since they aren't you don't....
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Jun 11 2008, 10:31 AM
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Group: Members Posts: 7,491 Joined: 2-September 04 From: Back HOME! W00t! Member No.: 660 |
I'm sure most of you know these types of shirts; the long-sleeved layering tees that are translucent and meant to be worn over something more substantial. Are these tznius, given that you can see through the shirt? What about when paired with a cami; are you al pi halacha covered, even if you can see skin through the shirt in areas the cami doesn't cover? I don't know. But women wear those on the 402 bus with a shell... but now I'm hijacking a thread again... -------------------- There are a number of ideas that literally form the backbone of Judaism. Without knowledge of these ideas, it is virtually impossible to know how Judaism came to be as it is today, or how it functions. Unfortunately, however, the more important the idea, the less the average person knows about it. - Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Handbook of Jewish Thought
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Aug 17 2008, 06:06 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 14-February 08 From: computer Member No.: 7,100 |
as long as you got the shirt on, what's the difference if it's see thru or not.
if i were a woman i would purposely wear a tanktop or c thru shirt on the 402 bus just to get the hareidim annoyed, if they give me a problem i'll take it off! |
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Aug 17 2008, 06:12 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 231 Joined: 28-February 07 From: In ur fridgez eatin' ur foodz Member No.: 5,066 |
-------------------- When a small man casts a large shadow, the sun is setting.
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Aug 17 2008, 06:14 PM
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Please do. Then you can show all those on the 402 how much you want to be seen as a body, instead of a person.
-------------------- על כל אחד ואחת להוסיף בתורה ובמצוות כדי להכריע את עצמו ואת כל העולם כולו לכף זכות!
'It is every Jew's duty to add in Torah and mitzvot in order to bring the geula.' |
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Aug 17 2008, 06:17 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 14-February 08 From: computer Member No.: 7,100 |
Please do. Then you can show all those on the 402 how much you want to be seen as a body, instead of a person. i'll tell my GF to do it she has a hot sexy body and guts and she hates the close mindedness of the hareidim too! for all i know they might shack her up on the 402 (reminds me of greyhound)!! |
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Aug 17 2008, 06:27 PM
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I'm sure most of you know these types of shirts; the long-sleeved layering tees that are translucent and meant to be worn over something more substantial. Are these tznius, given that you can see through the shirt? What about when paired with a cami; are you al pi halacha covered, even if you can see skin through the shirt in areas the cami doesn't cover? No. Especially when you can see things through the shell. Why not just wear clear plastic bags? -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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