Uncle Moshy, Good For The Jews? |
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 Jul 17 2008, 06:00 PM
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I grew up with Uncle Moshy. As I looked through a bunch of songs he has on YouTube I'm only now realizing the influence he had on my childhood. (Some positive but somethings I don't think were so positive.) Anyway I never knew he was Canadian. And I never knew he was Chabad. Though it retrospect it makes a lot of sense.
Anyway did you grow up with Uncle Moshy and do you buy Uncle Moshy for your children? One last thing, I don't know if I can think of another individual in the Jewish Music industry in the last 30 years (yes, I know, you're yelling "Carlebach") that had a bigger impact on Orthodox Jewish children and even adults in North America. -------------------- There are a number of ideas that literally form the backbone of Judaism. Without knowledge of these ideas, it is virtually impossible to know how Judaism came to be as it is today, or how it functions. Unfortunately, however, the more important the idea, the less the average person knows about it. - Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Handbook of Jewish Thought
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Jul 17 2008, 06:01 PM
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 חסד ואמת Group: Members Posts: 8,845 Joined: 16-November 06 Member No.: 4,063 |
He lives in Brooklyn.
-------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Jul 17 2008, 06:04 PM
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 Disgustingly Insensitive Group: Members Posts: 16,980 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
Apparently there are a few of them....
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Jul 17 2008, 06:06 PM
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Make Aliyah! Group: Members Posts: 7,569 Joined: 2-September 04 From: Back HOME! W00t! Member No.: 660 |
QUOTE (existwhere? @ Jul 18 2008, 02:01 AM)  He lives in Brooklyn. Yes, and he also held the light for the photographer at my brother's bar mitzvah in 1990. He was from Toronto however. He's still puts out albums and his old ones still sell as well. QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Jul 18 2008, 02:04 AM) Apparently there are a few of them.... Is that right? -------------------- There are a number of ideas that literally form the backbone of Judaism. Without knowledge of these ideas, it is virtually impossible to know how Judaism came to be as it is today, or how it functions. Unfortunately, however, the more important the idea, the less the average person knows about it. - Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Handbook of Jewish Thought
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Jul 17 2008, 06:24 PM
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I loved Uncle Moishy as a kid. His songs seemed to have positive messages. The refuah shelaima song, the brachos song - what could be wrong with his stuff?
-------------------- "Except for the most part what people seem to be pining for is licentiousness and debauchery and culinary experimentation, rather than wearing a srugie and a blue shirt at a simchah sitting next to a person of the opposite gender while eating fresh strawberries while checking your emails from the Sen. Obama camp on your Blackberry." ~ Melech
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Jul 17 2008, 06:29 PM
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Resisting imamother, resisting imamother, resisting imamother .. Group: Members Posts: 3,250 Joined: 20-October 05 Member No.: 1,939 |
I don't know how old he is but he's not old enough to have been around when i was a kid. I did like him for my own kids' entertainment though. His wife and i took childbirth exer cise classes together.
-------------------- "Scientific experimentation is like sex. Sometimes something useful comes out of it, but that's not why they do it." Lyric
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Jul 17 2008, 06:31 PM
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 grannylicious Group: Members Posts: 3,490 Joined: 23-December 04 From: anywhere there's wifi Member No.: 947 |
When my kids were young Uncle Moshy used to stay with us when he came to do a concert in London. He stayed with us on 3 separate occasions.
-------------------- "Mommy, is this the house where we are allowed to swing on the chairs, or the house where we're not allowed to swing on the chairs?"
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Jul 17 2008, 06:34 PM
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Make Aliyah! Group: Members Posts: 7,569 Joined: 2-September 04 From: Back HOME! W00t! Member No.: 660 |
QUOTE (brianna @ Jul 18 2008, 01:24 AM) I loved Uncle Moishy as a kid. His songs seemed to have positive messages. The refuah shelaima song, the brachos song - what could be wrong with his stuff? I love the songs. And this one was one of my favorites. But I think this is where Jews get the idea to wait for a great shofer before being magically transported to yerushalayim. I think all he songs are incredible simplified. Which is a good thing for children. The problem is I'm not sure people ever grow up from these simplified ideas! Like Hashem is here, Hashem is there... truly everywhere. Yet based on that childhood influence most adults don't ever understand that G-d is both immanent and transcendental. -------------------- There are a number of ideas that literally form the backbone of Judaism. Without knowledge of these ideas, it is virtually impossible to know how Judaism came to be as it is today, or how it functions. Unfortunately, however, the more important the idea, the less the average person knows about it. - Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan, Handbook of Jewish Thought
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Jul 17 2008, 07:02 PM
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 Gabbai  Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 12-December 05 From: GMT -08:00 Member No.: 2,107 |
His tendency to treat boys and girls equally, addressing both as equal audiences for his message is not tznius and wrong on so many levels. He should implicitly address the message to boys. That doesn't stop little girls from listening, but they shouldn't be directly addressed together with the boys.
And to include both frummy kids and seemingly modern-orthodox kids in his videos is disturbing. It send kids a mixed message and is a little too "inclusive" for my tastes. It screams of relativism. They're not going to be mixing in real life, ch'v. MO should be not be welcomed into homes with charedi children. Why suggest as much in the videos? |
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Jul 17 2008, 07:04 PM
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Disgustingly Insensitive Group: Members Posts: 16,980 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
QUOTE (Razie @ Jul 18 2008, 03:02 AM) His tendency to treat boys and girls equally, addressing both as equal audiences for his message is not tznius and wrong on so many levels. He should implicitly address the message to boys. That doesn't stop little girls from listening, but they shouldn't be directly addressed together with the boys. And to include both frummy kids and seemingly modern-orthodox kids in his videos is disturbing. It send kids a mixed message and is a little too "inclusive" for my tastes. It screams of relativism. They're not going to be mixing in real life, ch'v. MO should be not be welcomed into homes with charedi children. Why suggest as much in the videos? His tendency to treat boys and girls equally, addressing both as equal audiences for his message is not tznius and wrong on so many levels. He should implicitly address the message to boys. That doesn't stop little girls from listening, but they shouldn't be directly addressed together with the boys. And to include both frummy kids and seemingly modern-orthodox kids in his videos is disturbing. It send kids a mixed message and is a little too "inclusive" for my tastes. It screams of relativism. They're not going to be mixing in real life, ch'v. MO should be not be welcomed into homes with charedi children. Why suggest as much in the videos? What do you expect Razie, he's from CANADA 
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Jul 17 2008, 07:11 PM
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Resisting imamother, resisting imamother, resisting imamother .. Group: Members Posts: 3,250 Joined: 20-October 05 Member No.: 1,939 |
razie, unless i'm misunderstanding what you're saying, he prob. wants to include all the kids. the lub rebbe wanted that, it was from a tzivos hashem magazine cover. now every lub thing has boys and girls on it .
-------------------- "Scientific experimentation is like sex. Sometimes something useful comes out of it, but that's not why they do it." Lyric
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Jul 17 2008, 07:14 PM
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Sanctimonious Pleasure Seeker Group: Members Posts: 9,989 Joined: 3-September 04 From: a frummie big town Member No.: 662 |
QUOTE (Razie @ Jul 17 2008, 08:02 PM) His tendency to treat boys and girls equally, addressing both as equal audiences for his message is not tznius and wrong on so many levels. He should implicitly address the message to boys. That doesn't stop little girls from listening, but they shouldn't be directly addressed together with the boys. And to include both frummy kids and seemingly modern-orthodox kids in his videos is disturbing. It send kids a mixed message and is a little too "inclusive" for my tastes. It screams of relativism. They're not going to be mixing in real life, ch'v. MO should be not be welcomed into homes with charedi children. Why suggest as much in the videos? You're kidding - right? 1. He addresses young children - not teenagers. There is no tznius issue. 2. Just because frum society is rather segregated that doesn't mean that's how it should be. Sure there are fundamental philosophical disagreements between the groups, but we are all Jews. A fundamental part of Judaism is to be nice to people. What's wrong with presenting and promoting ideals and hoping the kids he impacts grow up to make the world a more inclusive place? QUOTE (Kalashnikover_Rebbe @ Jul 17 2008, 08:04 PM) What do you expect Razie, he's from CANADA Blame Canada.... *hums tune -------------------- "Except for the most part what people seem to be pining for is licentiousness and debauchery and culinary experimentation, rather than wearing a srugie and a blue shirt at a simchah sitting next to a person of the opposite gender while eating fresh strawberries while checking your emails from the Sen. Obama camp on your Blackberry." ~ Melech
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Jul 17 2008, 07:19 PM
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Gabbai Group: Members Posts: 759 Joined: 12-December 05 From: GMT -08:00 Member No.: 2,107 |
QUOTE (brianna @ Jul 17 2008, 05:14 PM) You're kidding - right? :D Well I had to find SOMETHING wrong with the guy. :D so, yeah, I'm kidding. Figured it was obvious, sad that it's not obvious! Is this so reasonable a stance that one could actually hold such an opinion? Wait - don't answer that. I watched some Uncle Moishy DVDs with my nephew and was suitably impressed with Uncle Moishy and glad that my nephew was watching it rather than some of the other Jewish media out there. I did ask my brother how this inclusiveness was ok in more traditional chassidish worlds, etc, and why wasn't it banned, and he suggested that actually many frum families wouldn't let their kids watch Uncle Moishy. I don't know if that's true. |
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Jul 17 2008, 07:22 PM
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Sanctimonious Pleasure Seeker Group: Members Posts: 9,989 Joined: 3-September 04 From: a frummie big town Member No.: 662 |
QUOTE (Razie @ Jul 17 2008, 08:19 PM) Figured it was obvious, sad that it's not obvious! Nope, not obvious at all. QUOTE (Razie @ Jul 17 2008, 08:19 PM) I watched some Uncle Moishy DVDs with my nephew and was suitably impressed with Uncle Moishy and glad that my nephew was watching it rather than some of the other Jewish media out there. I think Uncle Moishy is wonderful. Tzedaka, good middos, listening to your parents, being honest - all that stuff is wonderful. He manages to teach values without being preachy (something Veggie Tales fails miserably at). I have never heard of Uncle Moishy being banned at any frum home. However some families don't want ANY videos so they just listen to the tapes. -------------------- "Except for the most part what people seem to be pining for is licentiousness and debauchery and culinary experimentation, rather than wearing a srugie and a blue shirt at a simchah sitting next to a person of the opposite gender while eating fresh strawberries while checking your emails from the Sen. Obama camp on your Blackberry." ~ Melech
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Jul 17 2008, 07:25 PM
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Disgustingly Insensitive Group: Members Posts: 16,980 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
QUOTE (Red Hare @ Jul 18 2008, 03:11 AM) razie, unless i'm misunderstanding what you're saying, he prob. wants to include all the kids. the lub rebbe wanted that, it was from a tzivos hashem magazine cover. now every lub thing has boys and girls on it .  Yeah, that must be it.....
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