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Savannah
post Jul 25 2008, 09:50 AM
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I've been listening to the news on 1010 WINS but it's so boring. I don't like political talk shows. I recently listened to a program on Boston accents on Boston radio (http://www.radioboston.org/?p=901) that was interesting.

Does anyone have any recommendations of stations and/or specific programs that are online?
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post Jul 25 2008, 11:57 AM
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Video shurim from Torahanytime.com. They have all kinds of Rabbanim with different types of hashkafot (centrists/MO, charedi, chassidish, middle of the road-- blend of MO and charedi, etc.)

I recommend Rabbi Jonathan Rietti, Rabbi Zechariah Wallerstein, Rabbi Bentzion Shafier, and many, many others.

They also have a "women's only" section, which is pretty cool.


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:03 PM
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Thanks.

But I guess I meant not shiurim. I know about those sites.
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post Jul 25 2008, 12:10 PM
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I know this doesn't answer your question, but if you are interested in a capella music, on www.live365.com, they have a station that just plays a capella called "a capella always". It's not the best music ever, but it's definitely better than nothing.


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:33 PM
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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Jul 25 2008, 01:03 PM) *
Thanks.

But I guess I meant not shiurim. I know about those sites.

A lot of them are pretty enjoyable (I also love it when Rabbis crack jokes...R'Wallerstein is so funny.)
But, whatever floats your boat. smile.gif


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Jul 25 2008, 10:50 AM) *
I've been listening to the news on 1010 WINS but it's so boring. I don't like political talk shows. I recently listened to a program on Boston accents on Boston radio (http://www.radioboston.org/?p=901) that was interesting.

Does anyone have any recommendations of stations and/or specific programs that are online?

http://www.chassidus.com/audio/nigreb/

QUOTE (sle123 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:33 PM) *
A lot of them are pretty enjoyable (I also love it when Rabbis crack jokes...R'Wallerstein is so funny.)

He is amazing. smile.gif


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:42 PM
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I listen to radio sitcoms year round on http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/.
If you prefer drama, try http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/arts/.


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (BroadwayFreak @ Jul 25 2008, 01:10 PM) *
I know this doesn't answer your question, but if you are interested in a capella music, on www.live365.com, they have a station that just plays a capella called "a capella always". It's not the best music ever, but it's definitely better than nothing.


wait. singing or listening to singing is permitted but listening to music is not?
i'm still computing this.


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE (Ahavati @ Jul 25 2008, 01:45 PM) *
wait. singing or listening to singing is permitted but listening to music is not?

That is correct, and yours is the whole question of whether a capella is permissible.


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:56 PM
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Ask your LOR, but always thought that the instruments were the issue, not the singing voices. I could be wrong. Please don't tell me if I am, even though this music isn't the best, it's better than nothing.


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post Jul 25 2008, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (BroadwayFreak @ Jul 25 2008, 01:56 PM) *
Ask your LOR, but always thought that the instruments were the issue, not the singing voices. I could be wrong. Please don't tell me if I am, even though this music isn't the best, it's better than nothing.

I think you are right. But ask your own Rabbi for a psak, I think almost everyone holds as you said.


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post Jul 25 2008, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (Ahavati @ Jul 25 2008, 01:45 PM) *
wait. singing or listening to singing is permitted but listening to music is not?
i'm still computing this.

I don't get the question. You can't listen to music. What's that got to do with singing?

QUOTE (existwhere? @ Jul 25 2008, 01:55 PM) *
That is correct, and yours is the whole question of whether a capella is permissible.

The question of whether or not a capella is acceptable is that they make it sound like music, not that it is singing and we are not allowed to hear singing.


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QUOTE (Cassandra @ Jul 25 2008, 02:00 PM) *
I don't get the question. You can't listen to music. What's that got to do with singing?


The question of whether or not a capella is acceptable is that they make it sound like music, not that it is singing and we are not allowed to hear singing.

Yes but are we allowed to hear singing that sounds like instruments, Ahavati is saying what is the difference between music of voice and music of instrument. So it's not that the halacha is not to listen to music, the halacha is not to listen to instrumental music.


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post Jul 25 2008, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (BroadwayFreak @ Jul 25 2008, 01:56 PM) *
Ask your LOR, but always thought that the instruments were the issue, not the singing voices. I could be wrong. Please don't tell me if I am, even though this music isn't the best, it's better than nothing.


i thought the entire point was mourning?

eta: oh yes, here it is:

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The three-week period between the fast of the 17th of Tammuz and Tishah b'Av, known as Bein ha-Metzarim, was established by the Rabbis as a period of mourning over the destruction of the two Batei Mikdash. There are certain activities, normally permitted, which are prohibited during this period. The Talmud(1) tells us that only one who has properly mourned the Temple's destruction will merit to see its rebuilding. It is important, therefore, to become more knowledgeable about the exact nature of those prohibited activities. Let us review:


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post Jul 25 2008, 01:26 PM
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QUOTE (Ahavati @ Jul 25 2008, 01:45 PM) *
wait. singing or listening to singing is permitted but listening to music is not?
i'm still computing this.

Regardless of what other people do, I don't listen to a cappella music during the Three Weeks or sefirah.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions.
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post Jul 25 2008, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Jul 25 2008, 02:26 PM) *
Regardless of what other people do, I don't listen to a cappella music during the Three Weeks or sefirah.

Thank you everyone for your suggestions.


seems to me that if people can't be trusted to mourn in their own way, which is as unique as the individual they are, then anything that brings happiness should be banned. i mourned the loss of my mother through music, which inspired some beautiful writing in tribute to her memory. perhaps it's not 'what' but 'what kind' that truly matters to God. i know that's what my heart has reconciled. for that i'm both relieved and glad.


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post Jul 25 2008, 04:27 PM