Your date/SDJ/GF/Kallah/Wife wants to Kiss Another Girl, Experimentation and Relationships |
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Your date/SDJ/GF/Kallah/Wife wants to Kiss Another Girl, Experimentation and Relationships |
Aug 1 2008, 12:32 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 17,551 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
Someone asked me this hypothetical question and I thought it was absolutely fascinating from a psychological standpoint so i pose it to the H.com audience....
So say your girlfriend/SDJ (obviously one you already have a fairly serious relationship with), or even kallah/wife asks you if you would mind if they kissed another girl. So after you It turns out that she has a friend who is interested in the "experience" and asked her to "try it" out with her. Now YOUR chick claims that she has no real interest in this AT ALL in this and would only be doing it for the sake of her friend (whether or not that is true is a separate discussion). But she'll only do it if YOU don't object (and NO you perverts, they WON'T let you watch So as a guy (and lav davka from a "frum" standpoint): 1. Do you feel threatened? Is a lesbian kiss "just a kiss" and this is harmless experimentation to "satisfy curiosity" or are you worried that it might open a Pandora's Box and get out of hand? What if the "kiss" led to "other stuff" that is significantly "more personal and intimate"?? 2. Would YOU feel jealous, and would you feel it would "take away" from or get in the way with YOUR relationship with this chick?? 3. If you're NOT "jealous", would you worry that it might become something more for HER and that she might get emotionally involved and end up harming her relationship with YOU?? 4. Is this "cheating"? (not from a halachic standpoint, from a PSYCHOLOGICAL one) 5. Do you let her do it? How do you answer??? (like does she really WANT your reshus, or is she trying to get you to stop her?) Please try to handle this seriously and maturely, and keep the "lesbians r h0tt" and " d00d U should have a 3some" comments to yourselves....... -------------------- [/flirting]
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Aug 1 2008, 12:35 PM
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Are you serious? A kiss is cheating, whether to another male or female.
I have to admit I thought of this song right away. Warning: not apropriate for the 3 weeks, or probably ever really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp9BKosZXs |
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Aug 1 2008, 12:35 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 13,605 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 1,838 |
No way
-------------------- Kabel et ha-emet mi-mi she-omro.
"All is by the hand of Heaven, except colds and fevers" -Ketubot 30a. Why won't my wife let me pee against the fence when we have company for a barbecue? -melech ~My Blog~ |
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Aug 1 2008, 12:38 PM
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-------------------- Are you a good witch or a bad witch? |
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Aug 1 2008, 12:39 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 13,605 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 1,838 |
Are you serious? A kiss is cheating, whether to another male or female. I have to admit I thought of this song right away. Warning: not apropriate for the 3 weeks, or probably ever really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAp9BKosZXs from a comment there: I've kissed a lot of girls and damnit its awesome. Course im a dude but yeah still I see whats she sayin. Party on with your borderline lesbian song! I like it too. -------------------- Kabel et ha-emet mi-mi she-omro.
"All is by the hand of Heaven, except colds and fevers" -Ketubot 30a. Why won't my wife let me pee against the fence when we have company for a barbecue? -melech ~My Blog~ |
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Aug 1 2008, 12:42 PM
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I'd ask her if she felt ok with it and if she did, why not?
I mean, I could never hope to compare so what point is there in being jealous? I really don't see why I should care. if you were to turn the question on me though I'd never ever ask for such a thing. the answer would be "i'm sorry, I can't, its not right". but if she says that she's just satisfying her friends curiosity why should I doubt her? -------------------- "well has beruria spoken"
"be kind to the newbies, or Sporky R will come to get you." "when our dreams die, we die" ~Mrs. Ramen |
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Aug 1 2008, 12:44 PM
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Aug 1 2008, 12:45 PM
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It would depend on:
1) Is the other girl attractive? 2) If I say yes, what is the probability of me coming into the picture (whether to watch, or beyond) in the future? 3) Could I get a hidden camera in somewhere? So there's no simple answer. Buy yes, there is potential to feel threatened and/or see it as cheating. There is also potentional to see it as the greatest opportunity of your life. -------------------- Do you love the IRS? If so please do NOT support the FairTax proposal!
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Aug 1 2008, 12:56 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 17,551 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
Are you serious? A kiss is cheating, whether to another male or female. COMPLETELY serious, and yes that would be my first inclination, but after thinking about it, from a guy's perspective (or at least MINE) it isn't poshut at all and I really don't know..... -------------------- [/flirting]
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Aug 1 2008, 01:01 PM
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Someone asked me this hypothetical question and I thought it was absolutely fascinating from a psychological standpoint so i pose it to the H.com audience.... So say your girlfriend/SDJ (obviously one you already have a fairly serious relationship with), or even kallah/wife asks you if you would mind if they kissed another girl. So after you It turns out that she has a friend who is interested in the "experience" and asked her to "try it" out with her. Now YOUR chick claims that she has no real interest in this AT ALL in this and would only be doing it for the sake of her friend (whether or not that is true is a separate discussion). But she'll only do it if YOU don't object (and NO you perverts, they WON'T let you watch So as a guy (and lav davka from a "frum" standpoint): 1. Do you feel threatened? Is a lesbian kiss "just a kiss" and this is harmless experimentation to "satisfy curiosity" or are you worried that it might open a Pandora's Box and get out of hand? What if the "kiss" led to "other stuff" that is significantly "more personal and intimate"?? 2. Would YOU feel jealous, and would you feel it would "take away" from or get in the way with YOUR relationship with this chick?? 3. If you're NOT "jealous", would you worry that it might become something more for HER and that she might get emotionally involved and end up harming her relationship with YOU?? 4. Is this "cheating"? (not from a halachic standpoint, from a PSYCHOLOGICAL one) 5. Do you let her do it? How do you answer??? (like does she really WANT your reshus, or is she trying to get you to stop her?) Please try to handle this seriously and maturely, and keep the "lesbians r h0tt" and " d00d U should have a 3some" comments to yourselves....... What if this woman were to ask you if it's okay if she kissed a guy that was curious to see what it was like to kiss her (say he's never kissed anyone) and she had no feelings towards him. How would you react? -------------------- "Shake off all the fears and servile prejudices under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1787
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell?ob=1 Sentimentality is the emotional promiscuity of those who have no sentiment.---Norman Mailer |
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Aug 1 2008, 01:04 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 17,551 Joined: 9-February 04 From: Occupied Palestine Member No.: 407 |
What if this woman were to ask you if it's okay if she kissed a guy that was curious to see what it was like to kiss her (say he's never kissed anyone) and she had no feelings towards him. How would you react? Not even a QUESTION, absolutely NOT!!!! And I'd probably be upset that she even entertained the possibility.... That's what fascinates me. Why suddenly when it is a GIRL it isn't so clear???? -------------------- [/flirting]
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Aug 1 2008, 01:06 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 3,649 Joined: 23-December 04 From: anywhere there's wifi Member No.: 947 |
I can't see myself agreeing to kiss another woman for the experience or anything else. I am far too strongly hetero.
I like RebPropogandist's theory better, but from the other side. What would you do if your wife/gf asked you if she could kiss another man bc she got married to you at 18 and has never experienced another man's kiss? -------------------- "Mommy, is this the house where we are allowed to swing on the chairs, or the house where we're not allowed to swing on the chairs?"
- My three year old granddaughter. There is being a real father, and there is being in the same room as your wife when she conceives. |
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Aug 1 2008, 01:08 PM
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Not even a QUESTION, absolutely NOT!!!! And I'd probably be upset that she even entertained the possibility.... That's what fascinates me. Why suddenly when it is a GIRL it isn't so clear???? Thats EXACTLY what I was trying to point out. -------------------- "Shake off all the fears and servile prejudices under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1787
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell?ob=1 Sentimentality is the emotional promiscuity of those who have no sentiment.---Norman Mailer |
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Aug 1 2008, 01:29 PM
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Dude, and you were claiming that's something's happening to this board.
-------------------- Proud member of the "I don't always wait until I finish reading the thread to respond" club. Often people attempt to live their lives backwards; they try to have more things, or more money, in order to do more of what they want, so they will be happier. The way it actually works is the reverse. You must first be who you really are, then do what you need to do, in order to have what you want. ~ Margaret Young The holy grail is to spend less time making the picture than it takes people to look at it. ~ Banksy Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. |
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Aug 1 2008, 01:44 PM
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Halacha aside, I wouldn't have a problem with either scenario.
-------------------- Thought Happens™ |
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