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Does it cost more to be a lady ?
Red Hare
post Aug 11 2008, 12:52 PM
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It's obviously subjective as people are all different, but it seems to me that it costs crazy money to, well, take care of myself! And I don't mean a new sheital or yomtov clothes, I mean regular expenses of pharmaceuticals, makeup, even tailoring !

My crdit card bill this month was over $4500! Obviously it's not all for me, but getting some new pairs of sandals, having some jewelry fixed, the once-a-year coat dry-cleaning, a sesson at a salon (details are TMI smile.gif outside of AC), stuff from the discount pharmacy, etc., all add up in little bits at a time.

Any thoughts ?


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post Aug 11 2008, 12:57 PM
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Yes and No.
You don't "have" to spend all that money- marketing and the media have convinced you too.

That being said- For example I have many more shoes than my husband! So obviously I've bought into the need to buy.


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post Aug 11 2008, 01:33 PM
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Nechoma is correct - today and last week I skipped a professional manicure. When I was a kid NO ONE had their nails done or had waxing done or went for facials and such. Now, many many girls, men and women go, and on a regular basis, too. And it adds up to crazy money with a tip. And it's time consuming.

However, I DO need shoes for Shabbos and everyday. And I can't do most of my own tailoring either. So some expenses I have to have. And they add up too !


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post Aug 11 2008, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE (Nechama @ Aug 11 2008, 01:57 PM) *
Yes and No.
You don't "have" to spend all that money- marketing and the media have convinced you too.

That being said- For example I have many more shoes than my husband! So obviously I've bought into the need to buy.


but you must have appropriate ones to compliment certain outfits!


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post Aug 11 2008, 01:37 PM
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I have NEVER had a $4,500 CC bill in one month, and I have 6 children. In a year, maybe. unsure.gif
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post Aug 11 2008, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE (Jeanette @ Aug 11 2008, 02:37 PM) *
I have NEVER had a $4,500 CC bill in one month, and I have 6 children. In a year, maybe. unsure.gif


I agree that it sounds exorbitant, and not reflective of most women's spending (even if only half of the credit card was devoted to her).


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post Aug 11 2008, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE (Red Hare @ Aug 11 2008, 02:33 PM) *
However, I DO need shoes for Shabbos and everyday. And I can't do most of my own tailoring either. So some expenses I have to have. And they add up too !

Bare bones needs for men and woman are about the same right? Clothing and shoes and their maintenance, hair cutting and shampoo, basic hygiene products.

QUOTE (Ahavati @ Aug 11 2008, 02:33 PM) *
but you must have appropriate ones to compliment certain outfits!

I do concur!


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post Aug 11 2008, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE (Jeanette @ Aug 11 2008, 01:37 PM) *
I have NEVER had a $4,500 CC bill in one month, and I have 6 children. In a year, maybe. unsure.gif

Me neither, with 3 kids (albeit little). However, we DEFINITELY put more than that on our cc in a year. Lately, our cc bill has been exorbitant (according to me) and I'm trying to figure out WHAT I'm spending money on that I can cut and come up blank each time.


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post Aug 11 2008, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (FYI @ Aug 11 2008, 02:47 PM) *
Lately, our cc bill has been exorbitant (according to me) and I'm trying to figure out WHAT I'm spending money on that I can cut and come up blank each time.

We once went through this with Moshi. But I think what you need to do is to itemize three months of credit card bills for the h.com tzibbur to analyze.
Of course, that would be meaningless without itemizing debit/cheque/cash expenditures. An income statement might also be helpful, but at the very least, a complete 3-month budget.
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post Aug 11 2008, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (melech @ Aug 11 2008, 01:48 PM) *
We once went through this with Moshi. But I think what you need to do is to itemize three months of credit card bills for the h.com tzibbur to analyze.
Of course, that would be meaningless without itemizing debit/cheque/cash expenditures. An income statement might also be helpful, but at the very least, a complete 3-month budget.

I have very very seriously considered doing that but opted out for various reasons. I don't really ever use a check (rarely). I use a cash only to pay babysitter and for little things, i.e. slurpee, probably no more than $10/week.


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post Aug 11 2008, 02:02 PM
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The month isn't over, sadly. it'll be a lot more.

I'm no stranger to big credit card bills. I charge tuition on that card, too. Oh - and this is funny - we charged our son's Bar Mitzvah party at Dougie's on it. That was $3000 alone.


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post Aug 11 2008, 02:03 PM
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I hope you're getting miles on this card!


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post Aug 11 2008, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE (Red Hare @ Aug 11 2008, 02:02 PM) *
The month isn't over, sadly. it'll be a lot more.

I'm no stranger to big credit card bills. I charge tuition on that card, too. Oh - and this is funny - we charged our son's Bar Mitzvah party at Dougie's on it. That was $3000 alone.

Wait! This $4500 includes tuition?!?! That doesn't count.


QUOTE (rachel b. @ Aug 11 2008, 02:03 PM) *
I hope you're getting miles on this card!

or cash back, some sort of incentive.


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post Aug 11 2008, 02:06 PM
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cost more than being a gentleman?
cost more than being an unrefined or poorly-behaved woman?


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post Aug 11 2008, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE (FYI @ Aug 11 2008, 03:05 PM) *
Wait! This $4500 includes tuition?!?! That doesn't count.

Agreed. It's impossible to comment based on the opening post when further details that explain the situation trickle out.
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post Aug 11 2008, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE (melech @ Aug 11 2008, 02:10 PM) *
Agreed. It's impossible to comment based on the opening post when further details that explain the situation trickle out.

It happens to be I also pay tuition on my credit card, but I don't pay tuition in August?!?! or July?!?!


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post Aug 11 2008, 02:17 PM
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It's all of our food and almost all of our other bills, too.

It's Discover - I get cash back. You all know I never actually go anyplace, so miles wouldn't be good for us. It's cash that's king. smile.gif

Although if I took the $20 or $40 and asked for a Lands End certificae, for example, it'd be woreth a little more. I think they allow you to use that money towards some retailers like your $40 cash back turns into $50 if you specify it's for Lands End, or some such.


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