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 Aug 11 2008, 05:44 PM
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Local haredi boycott on supermarket chain
Ultra-orthodox Ashdod rabbis publish ad in community newspaper calling on haredi public to ban all stores owned by businessman Dudi Weissman for not sanctifying Shabbat http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3580111,00.html they have no problems with rabbis making up BS rules calling them "halacha" which is a violation of the torah which say do not add to it and attacking women who don't dress according to their taliban rules. they also have no problem with rabbis telling people that working to make ends meet is a sin. only in the mentally ill world called Haredi Judaism -------------------- Eurovision Thread
QUOTE "If the black hats feel their beliefs will not permit them to observe the small courtesies and rituals that oil the wheels of civic life on occasions where they volunteer to interact with their fellow citizens, then let them stay in their self-wrought ghettoes and eschew public life altogether. They can't have it both ways". Barbara Kay Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government |
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Aug 11 2008, 05:49 PM
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 grannylicious  Group: Members Posts: 3,649 Joined: 23-December 04 From: anywhere there's wifi Member No.: 947 |
QUOTE (sephardic-male @ Aug 11 2008, 11:44 PM)  Local haredi boycott on supermarket chain Ultra-orthodox Ashdod rabbis publish ad in community newspaper calling on haredi public to ban all stores owned by businessman Dudi Weissman for not sanctifying Shabbat http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3580111,00.html they have no problems with rabbis making up BS rules calling them "halacha" which is a violation of the torah which say do not add to it and attacking women who don't dress according to their taliban rules. they also have no problem with rabbis telling people that working to make ends meet is a sin. only in the mentally ill world called Haredi Judaism What exactly is wrong with boycotting a Jewish store that is mechallel shabbos? And if you don't have a problem with people working on shabbos "to make ends meet" then you should have. I resent the term "mentally ill world called Haredi Judaism." -------------------- "Mommy, is this the house where we are allowed to swing on the chairs, or the house where we're not allowed to swing on the chairs?"
- My three year old granddaughter. There is being a real father, and there is being in the same room as your wife when she conceives. |
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Aug 11 2008, 05:53 PM
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Gabbai Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 28-August 04 From: near Toronto, Canada Member No.: 653 |
because the store is not infringing on the religious freedoms of the haredim
-------------------- Eurovision Thread
QUOTE "If the black hats feel their beliefs will not permit them to observe the small courtesies and rituals that oil the wheels of civic life on occasions where they volunteer to interact with their fellow citizens, then let them stay in their self-wrought ghettoes and eschew public life altogether. They can't have it both ways". Barbara Kay Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government |
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Aug 11 2008, 05:59 PM
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grannylicious Group: Members Posts: 3,649 Joined: 23-December 04 From: anywhere there's wifi Member No.: 947 |
QUOTE (sephardic-male @ Aug 11 2008, 11:53 PM) because the store is not infringing on the religious freedoms of the haredim It's our choice to boycott a store that's open on shabbos without getting called mentally ill for doing it. -------------------- "Mommy, is this the house where we are allowed to swing on the chairs, or the house where we're not allowed to swing on the chairs?"
- My three year old granddaughter. There is being a real father, and there is being in the same room as your wife when she conceives. |
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Aug 11 2008, 06:17 PM
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 Shtark  Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 28-February 07 From: In ur fridgez eatin' ur foodz Member No.: 5,066 |
QUOTE (sephardic-male @ Aug 11 2008, 05:44 PM) only in the mentally ill world called Haredi Judaism I usually just ignore comments like this, but this is exactly what members have been pointing out for days already. Uncalled for. -------------------- "Discussion is the pickaxe which uncovers the Truth from the mountain of error under which it is buried."
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Aug 11 2008, 08:57 PM
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imagine if these hareidim drank alcohol or went to college, that would surely be his favorite story.
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Aug 11 2008, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE (lyric @ Aug 11 2008, 05:59 PM) It's our choice to boycott a store that's open on shabbos without getting called mentally ill for doing it. Actually, the store is not infringing on the Haredim's rights, but the Haredim are trying to infringe on the rights of secular people to shop whenever we want. And that is a basic right in a democracy.And then they are surprised that we don't all "just 'jump' and make aliyah"... |
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Aug 11 2008, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (Darkness Within @ Aug 11 2008, 06:17 PM) but this is exactly what members have been pointing out for days already Ditto. They've been pointing out the chutzpah of people expressing viewpoints other than their own. Oh the humanity!
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Aug 11 2008, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Aug 11 2008, 09:22 PM) Ditto. They've been pointing out the chutzpah of people expressing viewpoints other than their own. Oh the humanity! Um, what? I'm open-minded and don't care if people express different viewpoints. Calling all chareidim mentally ill is a little over the top, don't you think? I hope you're not serious. -------------------- "Discussion is the pickaxe which uncovers the Truth from the mountain of error under which it is buried."
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Aug 11 2008, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE (Darkness Within @ Aug 11 2008, 09:50 PM) Calling all chareidim mentally ill is a little over the top, don't you think? Oh, I agree. But sm's point is they're wrong in trying to impose their way of life on others, and I agree with that.
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Aug 11 2008, 10:19 PM
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Shtark Group: Members Posts: 333 Joined: 28-February 07 From: In ur fridgez eatin' ur foodz Member No.: 5,066 |
QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Aug 11 2008, 09:59 PM) But sm's point is they're wrong in trying to impose their way of life on others, and I agree with that. And that's fine. I was just agreeing with what people have been pointing out about how some posters can create a negative atmosphere with their ridicule. Has nothing to do with the content of the news article, just that little line the OP put in at the end. -------------------- "Discussion is the pickaxe which uncovers the Truth from the mountain of error under which it is buried."
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Aug 11 2008, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (krumlikeapretzel @ Aug 12 2008, 04:17 AM) Actually, the store is not infringing on the Haredim's rights, but the Haredim are trying to infringe on the rights of secular people to shop whenever we want. And that is a basic right in a democracy. And then they are surprised that we don't all "just 'jump' and make aliyah"... Secular people can shop wherever they want. Its a free right to boycott, last I checked as well. I don't get the problem. People in America boycott things all the time because their business practices are not inline with the people's beliefs (Walmart, Nestle are common in the crowd I run with). What am I missing? -------------------- Ayzeh kef lihiyot yehudi....
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Aug 11 2008, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE (Bird @ Aug 11 2008, 10:27 PM) Secular people can shop wherever they want. Its a free right to boycott, last I checked as well. I don't get the problem. The problem is that they're trying to impose their beliefs on others. Your freedom of religion ends where it infringes on my freedom from religion. This isn't going to make anyone religious, nor is it going to make relations between religious and non-religious people any better, it only creates and aggravates hatred and anger.
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Aug 11 2008, 11:36 PM
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Things that make you go hmmm Group: Members Posts: 3,479 Joined: 22-September 04 From: Home! Member No.: 695 |
.not worth it. I asked for explanation. <shrug>
-------------------- Ayzeh kef lihiyot yehudi....
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Aug 12 2008, 03:10 PM
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Gabbai Group: Members Posts: 822 Joined: 28-August 04 From: near Toronto, Canada Member No.: 653 |
QUOTE (ZMAN777 @ Aug 11 2008, 09:57 PM) imagine if these hareidim drank alcohol or went to college, that would surely be his favorite story. my my members still obsessed with alcohol and college eh? QUOTE (Bird @ Aug 11 2008, 11:27 PM) Secular people can shop wherever they want. Its a free right to boycott, last I checked as well. I don't get the problem. People in America boycott things all the time because their business practices are not inline with the people's beliefs (Walmart, Nestle are common in the crowd I run with). What am I missing? The Haredim have a history of imposing thier beliefs like beating up women that don't follow thier BS rules -------------------- Eurovision Thread
QUOTE "If the black hats feel their beliefs will not permit them to observe the small courtesies and rituals that oil the wheels of civic life on occasions where they volunteer to interact with their fellow citizens, then let them stay in their self-wrought ghettoes and eschew public life altogether. They can't have it both ways". Barbara Kay Broadly speaking, liberalism emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Different forms of liberalism may propose very different policies, but they are generally united by their support for a number of principles, including extensive freedom of thought and speech, limitations on the power of governments, the rule of law, the free exchange of ideas, a market or mixed economy, and a transparent system of government |
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Aug 12 2008, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (sephardic-male @ Aug 12 2008, 02:10 PM) The Haredim have a history of imposing thier beliefs like beating up women that don't follow thier BS rules Thank you for being brave and honest and calling them on their evil ways. I wish I wasn't such a coward sometimes.
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