Respecting your Rabbi |
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 Aug 13 2008, 10:05 AM
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The Rabbi of your shul is very knowledgeable, a great speaker, appears to be a great role model, etc. Basically, he seems to have all the traits that would make someone a great Rabbi. However, he requires all congregants to refer to him as “Gummy Bear” when speaking to him. He will not respond to any other name, not even “Rabbi Gummy Bear”.
Would you have trouble respecting your Rabbi? |
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Aug 13 2008, 10:11 AM
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Why would he do that?
-------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 11:11 AM)  Why would he do that? Would it make a difference in whether you would have difficulty respecting him? |
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Aug 13 2008, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 11:16 AM) Would it make a difference in whether you would have difficulty respecting him? Yes. -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 11:53 AM) Yes. OK then. It was a nickname that his mother, who has since passed away, called him. Your Rabbi feels this is the way for him to maintain a connection to her, after her death. |
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Aug 13 2008, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 11:57 AM) OK then. It was a nickname that his mother, who has since passed away, called him. Your Rabbi feels this is the way for him to maintain a connection to her, after her death. I'd find it hard to respect him. There are boundaries, and one of them is that you don't call people pet names in public. And you especially don't demand that people call you pet names in public. It sounds like immaturity to me. -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 12:00 PM) There are boundaries, and one of them is that you don't call people pet names in public. Why? |
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Aug 13 2008, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 12:02 PM) Why? Imagine: "Gummy Bear, Rabbi of Yehoopitzville, will now eulogize the deceased." -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 12:12 PM) Imagine: "Gummy Bear, Rabbi of Yehoopitzville, will now eulogize the deceased." Imagine: "Rabbi Hyman Schnipper, Rabbi of Yehoopitzville, will now eulogize the deceased." Is that any less awkward sounding? |
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Aug 13 2008, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 12:16 PM) Imagine: "Rabbi Hyman Schnipper, Rabbi of Yehoopitzville, will now eulogize the deceased." Is that any less awkward sounding? Definitely. -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 12:12 PM) Imagine: "Gummy Bear, Rabbi of Yehoopitzville, will now eulogize the deceased." I said he would like to be called "Gummy Bear" when you are speaking to him. His being introduced at a funeral is not "speaking to him." |
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Aug 13 2008, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 12:20 PM) I said he would like to be called "Gummy Bear" when you are speaking to him. His being introduced at a funeral is not "speaking to him." And that honors his mother how? If she was alive, she'd be horrified. I do not feel comfortable calling the person who's supposed to be telling me what halacha we follow "Gummy Bear". -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 12:26 PM) And that honors his mother how? If she was alive, she'd be horrified. How do you know that? She's not alive. QUOTE (existwhere? @ Aug 13 2008, 12:26 PM) I do not feel comfortable calling the person who's supposed to be telling me what halacha we follow "Gummy Bear". Why? Would you rather go to someone who is less knowledgable in halacha but is referred to by a more "mainstream" name? |
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Aug 13 2008, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 12:30 PM) How do you know that? She's not alive. Why? Would you rather go to someone who is less knowledgable in halacha but is referred to by a more "mainstream" name? Because it erodes his respect. It shows a lack of understanding of people's reactions and a bit of immaturity. (I don't know why I'm answering this hypothetical so seriously, it must be my tiredness.) -------------------- "If they would allow one dead soul to visit an assembly of philosophers, that would be the end of all their teachings."
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Aug 13 2008, 07:07 PM
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hahaha
-------------------- My dog doesn't lick his own butt. He doesn't eat poop or step in it. I'll concede that he does smell other dogs' butts and he does lick "himself." I'd prefer it if he doesn't lick me right after that, so I employ a few minutes of buffer time between licking other things and me and I try to get him to drink some water too. - VLG
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Aug 13 2008, 07:29 PM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 11:05 AM) The Rabbi of your shul is very knowledgeable, a great speaker, appears to be a great role model, etc. Basically, he seems to have all the traits that would make someone a great Rabbi. However, he requires all congregants to refer to him as “Gummy Bear” when speaking to him. He will not respond to any other name, not even “Rabbi Gummy Bear”. Would you have trouble respecting your Rabbi? Pancakes!!!!!! |
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Aug 16 2008, 11:12 PM
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QUOTE (Flickster @ Aug 13 2008, 08:05 AM) However, he requires all congregants to refer to him as “Gummy Bear” when speaking to him. He will not respond to any other name, not even “Rabbi Gummy Bear”. Would you have trouble respecting your Rabbi? OK, so people have an issue with pet names. My great-aunts use to call me "little Yankela" (my dad's name in Yiddish, and his middle Hebrew name is Yankel) because they use to say I looked just like him as a little boy. So, would the requirement of referring to him as "Yankela" be as offensive, or is it just because "gummy bear" seems childish? -------------------- "There's too much finger pointing backward to make you think they're going anywhere but backward" - Palin It's like classic h.com discussions: He who does what I don't do is an ignorant fanatic and he who doesn't do what I do is beneath my religious contempt. - meleh yes, I openly admit to being shallow - Shuli |
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Aug 17 2008, 12:51 AM
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