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post Aug 13 2008, 02:19 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/books/13...l?th&emc=th (article)

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/08...alks/index.html (slideshow)

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=8b75...3d0abd5290d6624 (video)


Very pretty pictures, but the woman tour guide calls the area around Ramallah, the West Bank as "Palestine." She it's her "country, or what's left of it."

I hate the New York Times. sad.gif
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post Aug 14 2008, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Aug 13 2008, 08:19 PM) *
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/books/13...l?th&emc=th (article)

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/08...alks/index.html (slideshow)

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=8b75...3d0abd5290d6624 (video)


Very pretty pictures, but the woman tour guide calls the area around Ramallah, the West Bank as "Palestine." She it's her "country, or what's left of it."

I hate the New York Times. sad.gif

As per calling it Palestine, that isn't necessarily inaccurate. Since when was it part of the State of Israel?


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post Aug 14 2008, 10:05 AM
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Since always. angry.gif
Actually, that's not quite accurate. I'd venture to say since '67.


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QUOTE (Majorthinker @ Aug 14 2008, 04:05 PM) *
Since always. angry.gif
Actually, that's not quite accurate. I'd venture to say since '67.

When did the State of Israel make a claim on the territory for it to be part of Israel? Jerusalem and the Golan heights can be considered part of Israel. Even Israel only considered Judea and Samaria 'disputed territory.'


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QUOTE (bauerskates613 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:05 AM) *
As per calling it Palestine, that isn't necessarily inaccurate. Since when was it part of the State of Israel?

It doesn't matter if it was ever part of Israel or not; the name "Palestine" has never referred to an independent country.
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As per calling it Palestine, that isn't necessarily inaccurate. Since when was it part of the State of Israel?


Since when is it part of the State of Palestine?


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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Aug 13 2008, 03:19 PM) *
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/13/books/13...l?th&emc=th (article)

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2008/08...alks/index.html (slideshow)

http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=8b75...3d0abd5290d6624 (video)


Very pretty pictures, but the woman tour guide calls the area around Ramallah, the West Bank as "Palestine." She it's her "country, or what's left of it."

I hate the New York Times. sad.gif

To deny a historical region known as Palestine is counter productive, Yes there was a land called palestine, 75% of which became Jordan( a country of Palestinian and Bedouin Saudi origin) The West Bank IS part of Palestine, and as such it should be reunified with the rest of the Palestinian state......Jordan,After all it is the West Bank OF JORDAN (thats what it is west of,its east of Israel)

Westbank to Jordan, Gaza to Egypt, Druze to Syria, Bedouins to Jordan. Problem solved


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But who rules the West Bank? And who pays water and taxes and etc...? angry.gif
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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Aug 14 2008, 02:04 AM) *
Very pretty pictures, but the woman tour guide calls the area around Ramallah, the West Bank as "Palestine." She it's her "country, or what's left of it."

I hate the New York Times. sad.gif


Yeah it's too bad that a non-Jew would consider it their country, even worse that they would dislike the present state of things there.

Just awful.

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But who rules the West Bank? And who pays water and taxes and etc...? angry.gif
I hate Arabs.


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QUOTE (Axolotl @ Aug 14 2008, 11:40 PM) *
Yeah it's too bad that a non-Jew would consider it their country, even worse that they would dislike the present state of things there.

Just awful.

Forget that. It's too bad that not enough Jews consider it to be their country. Sigh.


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What's that for? Do you agree or not?


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QUOTE (Goldfish @ Aug 14 2008, 04:54 PM) *
It doesn't matter if it was ever part of Israel or not; the name "Palestine" has never referred to an independent country.

hence why I said as per calling it Palestine, omitting her reference to 'my country.' It is part of Palestine, and it's not part of her country.

QUOTE (Pinchas @ Aug 14 2008, 06:38 PM) *
Since when is it part of the State of Palestine?

and when did I say it was part of the 'State of Palestine?'


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QUOTE (Majorthinker @ Aug 15 2008, 03:21 AM) *
But who rules the West Bank? And who pays water and taxes and etc...? angry.gif
I hate Arabs.

erm?
(you mean because of the 'contradiction' in not liking freedom/not having to pay for water, etc.? You do realize that though Israel 'rules' the West Bank, the PA is responsible for ALL civil administration......?)


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There's a major contradiction. But then again, if Israel would no longer pay ANY attention to the West Bank, then we all know where that would lead. Siman that the West Bank belongs to Israel. OTOH, if the Arabs would not pay attention to it, then we'd all get on much better. Now, whose land is it?


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