Contrary to popular belief Yemenites are not a homogeneous group, there were different communities in Yemen not just Sana'a and Aden. Communities with different origins,pronunciations and minhagim. we know that a large part of Yemenite Jewry descends from Arab geirim. This is not something that is debated and has been proven through genetics and history. Yemenite Arabs have the largest amount of Negroid(no other appropriate term bare with me) among all Asian Arabs (ie not factoring Arabs in Africa) and we know that so too, Yemenite Jews have the largest admixture of said genes among Jews(not counting Ethiopians,abayudaya etc)

However if a large part of Yemenite Arabs descend from Africans (and we must remember this is not really admixture due to slave trade,as the original language of Yemen was not Arabic but South Arabian a Semitic language related to Ethiopian languages) and a large part of Yemenite Jews descend from geirim, Why are there no Black yemenite jews? well if you've ever looked at old photographs of Yemenite Jews in yemen you can see that their are/where



so the question is why are they not seen in israel? Sinister motives?

compare to the more common temanim we see

That's so silly. Everyone knows that Yemenite Jews in Israel come in a variety of shades. What are you implying?

im impliying they might have been exluded from Imigration.

It has to do with how much they're exposed to the sun. In Yemen, living a rural life, the sun tanned them much more than in Israel which is more urban. That's why you're seeing light Yemenite Jews.
I know Yemenite Jews who you can't tell from Ashkenazim, but I'm sure that would change if we both lived in the sun, the Yemenites tan while the Ashkenazim burn.

we are not talking about skin colour, Yes the majority of Yemenites are Caucasoids of the Orientalid(AKA ARABID) type

but these specific people in question exhibit non Caucasoid features
luckily they arent dead they are just stuck in yemen



Caucasoid and Non Caucasoid yemenites side by side

as for Yemenites you cant tell from ashkenazim, thats not a surprise

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3211/259925...2950529.jpg?v=0
genetics shows all jews (except Ethiopians) are pretty much the same (with yemenites having some Higher Ger ancestry)
and ive already posted Mizrahim and Ashkenazim who are identical almost brothers

Huh...I don't follow?

In that picture, those two men have very similar features; one is just 3 shades darker than the other. In fact, the darker one looks very similar to how my father looked when he was 20 (my father is of East Indian ancestry...where they like to call people "Indo-Aryans"...whatever that means).

One day people will learn that the whole concept of "race" is very flawed; in that often times, physical traits can totally betray a person's ancestry....

How do you know what would be an appropriate exposure for the photograph?

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I agree with MissShona.

But that doesn't make sense. If they tried to exclude the dark Yemenites from immigration to Israel, they didn't do a very good job, as there are some very dark Yemenites in Israel. True, here and there you will find one Yemenite in a family who has pale skin and just regular brown or even lightish brown hair (like an Ashkenazi) but they are truly an anomaly. I've only seen one or two Yemenites like that in my entire life. Most Yemenites in Israel are quite dark.

Ah-ha! Kind of like the blonde-haired, blue-eyed Ashkenazim vs. the olive-skinned, burnette Ashkenazim? Oh, and what about the gingi ones? Hey...how come only the Ashkenazim can be "colorful"?!

East Indians are Partialy of Indo-Aryan and Dravidic (australoid race, related to australians,) so it aint that off,since australoids often times can look "black" dravidian girl from india

I'd really like to know what genetic studies you are talking about. I thought I had read about this topic extensively and found that:

there are three Y chromosome haplogroups sometimes considered to be 'founding' Jewish lineages,

and,

mt-DNA (passed matrilineally) is anything but distinctive for Jews; one recent paper published in PLoS delineated founding mt-DNA haplogroups and listed at least 20. In fact the concluding sentence of the abstract of this paper reads as follows: "These findings highlight striking differences in the demographic history of the widespread Jewish Diaspora." (It's PMID 18446216 if anyone wants to check it out)

The Y chromosome data does show that a large number of Jewish males pretty much everywhere have some common descent (viz. by being of haplogroups J, G, or E2b).

But the overall impression I've gotten is that genetics shows all Jews are anything but 'pretty much the same.' Did you ever read up on the haplogroups most often seen in 'Levites'...? Wayyyyyy more 'ger' than Yemenites...

Guess what Moshe Rabbeinu's wife was...

Ok, and what exactly are your criteria for being "Black" or "non-Caucasian"....that is what I do not understand....

If it has to do with the shade of your skin, that is not entirely true...because you have very fair skinned "Black" people







So being "non-Caucasian" involves more than skin color. However dark-skinned people differ in every other physical trait as well (hair type, facial structure, body build)...so that doesn't do too much to define a group either.

Truth is the human beings have been around for a long time mixing things up...so who knows what anyone's background is. Why is it so important anyway?

Welcome Back Shona!! So nice to see you again. :D

Besides making those word salad posts readable (like adding punctuation and capitalisation), is there any way to cut down on the casual racism and use of extremely outdated 19th century anthropological terms?

This whole post was sopoused to be a kinda like you know, a conspiracy theory I was entirely serious. but it makes me sad when i get critiqued about grammer, I don't real know grammer honestly. I'm lucky I know how to read even.Sorry