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 Aug 19 2008, 11:10 AM
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my rosh yeshiva was want to tell us that after 120 years, you would be shown a video of someones life and asked to pronounce judgement. Afterwards it would be revealed to you that the like on which you pronounced judgement was your own life. (and hence you would have judged your life as you judged others)
hence hypocricy and having a bad eye are the two worst traits in life as far as the bais din shel maileh are concerned. (  )so what do you think about this? -------------------- "well has beruria spoken"
"be kind to the newbies, or Sporky R will come to get you." "when our dreams die, we die" ~Mrs. Ramen |
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Aug 19 2008, 11:11 AM
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 Gedoles Hador Group: Members Posts: 9,097 Joined: 26-May 05 Member No.: 1,532 |
QUOTE (outspoken @ Aug 19 2008, 11:10 AM)  my rosh yeshiva was want to tell us that after 120 years, you would be shown a video of someones life and asked to pronounce judgement. Afterwards it would be revealed to you that the like on which you pronounced judgement was your own life. (and hence you would have judged your life as you judged others) hence hypocricy and having a bad eye are the two worst traits in life as far as the bais din shel maileh are concerned. ( )so what do you think about this? I think I've heard it before. It is like when Nosson (I think that's who it is) came to Dovid and told him a story and then told Dovid he was the character in story to which his reply was 'chatasi' -------------------- Many people wish they could change their life, when all they really need to do is change their attitude towards life. - Sharon
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Aug 19 2008, 02:02 PM
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 Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,282 Joined: 6-December 05 Member No.: 2,078 |
QUOTE (outspoken @ Aug 19 2008, 04:10 AM) my rosh yeshiva was want to tell us that after 120 years, you would be shown a video of someones life and asked to pronounce judgement. Afterwards it would be revealed to you that the like on which you pronounced judgement was your own life. (and hence you would have judged your life as you judged others) hence hypocricy and having a bad eye are the two worst traits in life as far as the bais din shel maileh are concerned. ( )so what do you think about this? What's his source? -------------------- "Shake off all the fears and servile prejudices under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1787
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell?ob=1 Sentimentality is the emotional promiscuity of those who have no sentiment.---Norman Mailer |
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Aug 19 2008, 02:08 PM
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 Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 5,939 Joined: 1-June 03 Member No.: 72 |
Well now that we know this, won't we pronounce a very good judgement on that video?
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Aug 19 2008, 02:08 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,282 Joined: 6-December 05 Member No.: 2,078 |
QUOTE (int @ Aug 19 2008, 07:08 AM) Well now that we know this, won't we pronounce a very good judgement on that video? Shhhh You can't bring logic into this. -------------------- "Shake off all the fears and servile prejudices under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." --Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr, 1787
http://www.youtube.com/user/patcondell?ob=1 Sentimentality is the emotional promiscuity of those who have no sentiment.---Norman Mailer |
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Aug 19 2008, 02:57 PM
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חסד זך Group: Members Posts: 3,073 Joined: 16-March 08 From: middle of nowhere Member No.: 7,158 |
QUOTE (RebPropagandist @ Aug 19 2008, 03:02 PM) What's his source? I don't know anymore. I once did though. QUOTE (int @ Aug 19 2008, 03:08 PM) Well now that we know this, won't we pronounce a very good judgement on that video? probably not. -------------------- "well has beruria spoken"
"be kind to the newbies, or Sporky R will come to get you." "when our dreams die, we die" ~Mrs. Ramen |
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Aug 20 2008, 08:34 AM
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 Rebbe  Group: Members Posts: 1,045 Joined: 10-February 07 From: Bristol Member No.: 4,893 |
QUOTE (int @ Aug 19 2008, 08:08 PM) Well now that we know this, won't we pronounce a very good judgement on that video? considering that we won't be able, for whatever reason, to tell that it is our life and that it is us in that video, it seems as likely that we won't take the knowledge of what will happen as well. That, and I doubt G-d would be fooled so easily. I'm fairly sure he'd realized what your true judgment would be -------------------- Javol!
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Aug 20 2008, 09:14 AM
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חסד זך Group: Members Posts: 3,073 Joined: 16-March 08 From: middle of nowhere Member No.: 7,158 |
QUOTE (bauerskates613 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:34 AM) considering that we won't be able, for whatever reason, to tell that it is our life and that it is us in that video, it seems as likely that we won't take the knowledge of what will happen as well. That, and I doubt G-d would be fooled so easily. I'm fairly sure he'd realized what your true judgment would be somethings don't have to make sense. 
-------------------- "well has beruria spoken"
"be kind to the newbies, or Sporky R will come to get you." "when our dreams die, we die" ~Mrs. Ramen |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:22 AM
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Rebbe Group: Members Posts: 1,045 Joined: 10-February 07 From: Bristol Member No.: 4,893 |
QUOTE (outspoken @ Aug 20 2008, 03:14 PM) somethings don't have to make sense. perhaps, but why is tht relevant? -------------------- Javol!
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Aug 20 2008, 09:43 AM
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חסד זך Group: Members Posts: 3,073 Joined: 16-March 08 From: middle of nowhere Member No.: 7,158 |
QUOTE (RebPropagandist @ Aug 19 2008, 03:08 PM) Shhhh You can't bring logic into this.
-------------------- "well has beruria spoken"
"be kind to the newbies, or Sporky R will come to get you." "when our dreams die, we die" ~Mrs. Ramen |
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Aug 25 2008, 07:25 PM
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 Rebbe Group: Members Posts: 1,434 Joined: 6-August 05 From: עיר של שלום Member No.: 1,709 |
LOL. Logic is....
That you won't know it's your life. And you'll judge yourself the same way you judge everyone else. So work on the midda now! -------------------- על כל אחד ואחת להוסיף בתורה ובמצוות כדי להכריע את עצמו ואת כל העולם כולו לכף זכות!
'It is every Jew's duty to add in Torah and mitzvot in order to bring the geula.' |
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Aug 26 2008, 01:29 AM
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 [mystified] Group: Members Posts: 8,077 Joined: 8-February 05 From: עמק הבכא Member No.: 1,113 |
QUOTE (outspoken @ Aug 19 2008, 12:10 PM) so what do you think about this? For me, I don't think they'll have to pretend it's someone else's life. I think I'd be most capable of pronouncing harsh judgment where warranted. -------------------- דעלך סני לחברך לא תעביד
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Aug 26 2008, 01:57 AM
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Rebbe Group: Members Posts: 1,434 Joined: 6-August 05 From: עיר של שלום Member No.: 1,709 |
Why would you want to?
-------------------- על כל אחד ואחת להוסיף בתורה ובמצוות כדי להכריע את עצמו ואת כל העולם כולו לכף זכות!
'It is every Jew's duty to add in Torah and mitzvot in order to bring the geula.' |
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Aug 26 2008, 05:36 AM
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חסד זך Group: Members Posts: 3,073 Joined: 16-March 08 From: middle of nowhere Member No.: 7,158 |
QUOTE (accolade @ Aug 26 2008, 02:29 AM) For me, I don't think they'll have to pretend it's someone else's life. I think I'd be most capable of pronouncing harsh judgment where warranted. me neither. (grammar police!) -------------------- "well has beruria spoken"
"be kind to the newbies, or Sporky R will come to get you." "when our dreams die, we die" ~Mrs. Ramen |
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Aug 26 2008, 08:36 AM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 48 Joined: 15-May 08 From: Netherlands Member No.: 7,259 |
QUOTE (outspoken @ Aug 19 2008, 11:10 AM) my rosh yeshiva was want to tell us that after 120 years, you would be shown a video of someones life and asked to pronounce judgement. Afterwards it would be revealed to you that the like on which you pronounced judgement was your own life. (and hence you would have judged your life as you judged others) hence hypocricy and having a bad eye are the two worst traits in life as far as the bais din shel maileh are concerned. ( )so what do you think about this? They say that lashon hara is the worst thing you could do. Even talking about yourself is forbidden. I suppose the best thing to do, after viewing the video, is to keep your opinion/judgement to yourself. (I don't know many people who could /would do that though!) |
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Aug 26 2008, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE (Mensch @ Aug 26 2008, 09:36 AM) They say that lashon hara is the worst thing you could do. Even talking about yourself is forbidden. I suppose the best thing to do, after viewing the video, is to keep your opinion/judgement to yourself. (I don't know many people who could /would do that though!) 
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