The story of the Washing Cup |
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The story of the Washing Cup |
Aug 20 2008, 01:34 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 13,063 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 1,838 |
What is it?
Why do you need a washing cup? If you need a utensil, why do you need a special one? Why does it need to handles? What to do when you don't have a washing cup and need to wash your hands? Thank you in advance for any information on this topic. -------------------- Kabel et ha-emet mi-mi she-omro.
"All is by the hand of Heaven, except colds and fevers" -Ketubot 30a. Why won't my wife let me pee against the fence when we have company for a barbecue? -melech ~My Blog~ |
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Aug 20 2008, 01:39 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 2,506 |
There may be problems with using a disposable cup for netilas yadayim.
There may be problems with a cup that doesn't hold enough water to cover the entire hand at once. There may be problems with touching the cup with wet hands. If the cup has two handles, then it's less likely that you'll touch a spot that's already wet and make your hands tomei again. A washing cup needs a smooth edge with no spout. If you have a cup that doesn't present these problems (and possibly others), you don't need a special washing cup. |
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Aug 20 2008, 02:12 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 13,063 Joined: 16-September 05 From: Washington, DC Member No.: 1,838 |
There may be problems with using a disposable cup for netilas yadayim. why? QUOTE There may be problems with touching the cup with wet hands. If the cup has two handles, then it's less likely that you'll touch a spot that's already wet and make your hands tomei again. Wouldn't you be touching a handle with your wet hand regardless? QUOTE A washing cup needs a smooth edge with no spout. If you have a cup that doesn't present these problems (and possibly others), you don't need a special washing cup. what are these problems, where do they come from? why do you need a cup at all? what do you do if there is no cup? (e.g. at work). -------------------- Kabel et ha-emet mi-mi she-omro.
"All is by the hand of Heaven, except colds and fevers" -Ketubot 30a. Why won't my wife let me pee against the fence when we have company for a barbecue? -melech ~My Blog~ |
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Aug 20 2008, 02:18 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 2,506 |
why? Wouldn't you be touching a handle with your wet hand regardless? what are these problems, where do they come from? why do you need a cup at all? what do you do if there is no cup? (e.g. at work). Kitzur Shulchan aruch, Chapter 40. (Yay, kitzur! A sefer I actually know!) http://www.geocities.com/yona_n.geo/kizzur/kizzur40prn.html |
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Aug 20 2008, 08:54 PM
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What to do when you don't have a washing cup and need to wash your hands? In a place where I have no cup, I use a water bottle. And I don't necessarily pour the water over my hands like they taught us in preschool - twice on each hands. Just pour the water over my hands and make a bracha. A bigger problem than finding a vessel is finding a sink. So often sinks are in bathrooms and no matter how hard I try, I cannot get my rabbi to say that it's okay to wash one's hands in the bathroom. So I've washed in water fountains and garbage cans (I always feel bad doing that and hope it dries before someone has to take out the trash). -------------------- דעלך סני לחברך לא תעביד
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Aug 20 2008, 08:59 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 2,506 |
A bigger problem than finding a vessel is finding a sink. So often sinks are in bathrooms and no matter how hard I try, I cannot get my rabbi to say that it's okay to wash one's hands in the bathroom. So I've washed in water fountains and garbage cans (I always feel bad doing that and hope it dries before someone has to take out the trash). Wash over the grass. In a place where I have no cup, I use a water bottle. Doesn't the water have the cover your entire hand at once? |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:02 PM
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What to do when you don't have a washing cup and need to wash your hands? isn't there something about turning the faucet on and off each time you wash? And I don't necessarily pour the water over my hands like they taught us in preschool - twice on each hands. Just pour the water over my hands and make a bracha. never heard of it, guess i'm still stuck in the preschool stage |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:10 PM
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Wash over the grass. Grass is not always convenient. Neither is concrete or dirt. never heard of it, guess i'm still stuck in the preschool stage Doesn't everyone pour water over their right hand twice, then over the left hand twice (when washing for bread)? I thought it was a universal custom. -------------------- דעלך סני לחברך לא תעביד
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Aug 20 2008, 09:12 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 2,506 |
Grass is not always convenient. Neither is concrete or dirt. Doesn't everyone pour water over their right hand twice, then over the left hand twice (when washing for bread)? I thought it was a universal custom. No. We do 1-2 1-2 1-2 o in the morning for negel vasser, and 1-2-3 1-2-3 when washing for bread. |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:15 PM
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Doesn't everyone pour water over their right hand twice, then over the left hand twice (when washing for bread)? I thought it was a universal custom. i think many do it this way (or is it most? lubavitch is different, as Jeanette said, don't know about other chassidim - eye, RH, see, here i included lubavitchers among chassidim, aren't you glad? |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:16 PM
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1-2-3 1-2-3 when washing for bread. Okay, I've heard of that. It's a variation on the 1-2 on the right hand, 1-2 on the left hand. I suppose I was subconsciously grouping that together with the way I do it - they both wash the right hand multiple times, then the left hand multiple times. Which - I think - is what everyone does. Yes? No? i think many do it this way (or is it most? lubavitch is different, as Jeanette said, don't know about other chassidim - eye, RH, see, here i included lubavitchers among chassidim, aren't you glad? I mean that when I'm pouring with a water bottle, I don't necessarily do it the way they taught in preschool. Any other time I do. -------------------- דעלך סני לחברך לא תעביד
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Aug 20 2008, 09:19 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 2,506 |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:22 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 3,145 Joined: 19-March 06 Member No.: 2,506 |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:22 PM
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No. We do 1-2 1-2 1-2 o in the morning for negel vasser, and 1-2-3 1-2-3 when washing for bread. That's what I do. (Although I sometimes get distracted and do the opposite one instead.) Doesn't everyone pour water over their right hand twice, then over the left hand twice (when washing for bread)? I thought it was a universal custom. Hubby does it that way. I think he'd like me to just do twice on each hand but I just can't seem to. -------------------- "But it's a dry heat."
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Aug 20 2008, 09:25 PM
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I mean that when I'm pouring with a water bottle, I don't necessarily do it the way they taught in preschool. and that's what i was commenting on - i never heard of people doing it differently, even with a water bottle. why can't you pour the regular way with a water bottle? |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:25 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 1,793 Joined: 21-June 06 From: Southern boy trapped in NYC Member No.: 2,898 |
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Aug 20 2008, 09:30 PM
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