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 Mar 17 2005, 09:42 AM
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 Shtark  Group: Members Posts: 332 Joined: 4-July 03 Member No.: 127  |
The gemara seems to say that whatever happens in shamayim is parallel to what happens here on earth. I think what it is saying is that things on earth happen as a result of what happens in shamayim among the angels.
What does this mean in terms of bechira? If things happen here because of what happened there, I can't choose to do what I want, because it depends on what happens in shamayim? -------------------- cash value: 2 cents
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Mar 17 2005, 07:39 PM
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 Godol Hador  Group: Members Posts: 3,888 Joined: 24-June 03 Member No.: 101 |
I'm not sure it means what you think it means. Things have their parallel in shamayim, like Yerushalayim/ Tziyon. I don't think that is supposed to mean that heavenly happenings cause their earthly counterparts to happen.
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Mar 17 2005, 07:50 PM
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Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 4,190 Joined: 6-March 05 Member No.: 1,237 |
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