No Washing Cup For Hamotzi, Whatcha do? |
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 Sep 13 2006, 01:44 PM
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 Godol Hador  Group: Members Posts: 2,800 Joined: 4-February 04 From: Somewhere in the Western Hemisphere, Earth Member No.: 402  |
[So you can't add polls in Halacha
 , 'guess it's my way or the highway'-type of section.]What do you do if there's no washing cup around? Use a mug, drinking glass, plastic disposable, collapsible pill cup, move your hands under the faucet to mimic washing with a cup? -------------------- The day will come when I will be able to properly and fully express myself in my sig. Today is a sad day. |
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Sep 13 2006, 01:47 PM
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 Godol Hador Group: Members Posts: 7,461 Joined: 26-April 04 Member No.: 486 |
i would use a plastic cup (the same applies for washing after the bathroom). don't know if it's the right way, though
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Sep 13 2006, 01:50 PM
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Group: Members Posts: 35,339 Joined: 2-September 03 Member No.: 239 |
QUOTE (Tova @ Sep 13 2006, 02:44 PM)  [So you can't add polls in Halacha , 'guess it's my way or the highway'-type of section.]What do you do if there's no washing cup around? Use a mug, drinking glass, plastic disposable, collapsible pill cup, move your hands under the faucet to mimic washing with a cup? Anything that's a cup (it can stand on its own, is complete, holds water, no spout etc) is perfectly fine. It doesn't have to be a designated washing cup. That said, a collapsible pill cup may be problematic if water leaks out - there are rules about that. As for moving your hands under the faucet, what's usually recommended in extreme circumstances is to turn the faucet on and off rather than moving your hand in and out of the stream. |
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Sep 13 2006, 01:50 PM
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 Now A Genome Sequencer Group: Members Posts: 13,842 Joined: 23-May 05 From: Tipah Sirucha Member No.: 1,516 |
If you have a cup with handles (non disposable) use it. If you have no cup then turn on the faucet for a second as if its being poured, since its considered your 'pouring' since it was a result of your direct action that caused the water to flow (unlike running a faucet for a while) If youre at a lake or other body of water (swimming pool? toilet?) then just dunk your hands.
-------------------- "Eat. Spit. Be Happy." -Davids
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Sep 13 2006, 01:51 PM
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 Things that make you go hmmm Group: Members Posts: 3,479 Joined: 22-September 04 From: Home! Member No.: 695 |
QUOTE (melech @ Sep 13 2006, 08:50 PM) Anything that's a cup (it can stand on its own, is complete, holds water, no spout etc) is perfectly fine. It doesn't have to be a designated washing cup. That said, a collapsible pill cup may be problematic if water leaks out - there are rules about that. As for moving your hands under the faucet, what's usually recommended in extreme circumstances is to turn the faucet on and off rather than moving your hand in and out of the stream. What Melech said. Britney Spears did it wrong in that video. -------------------- Ayzeh kef lihiyot yehudi....
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Sep 13 2006, 02:20 PM
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 Rebbe  Group: Members Posts: 1,475 Joined: 6-July 04 From: Shangri La Member No.: 558 |
QUOTE (doodlehead @ Sep 13 2006, 02:50 PM) If youre at a lake or other body of water (swimming pool? toilet?) then just dunk your hands. and say al tvilas yadayim. -------------------- Frizz happens.
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Sep 13 2006, 02:25 PM
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Gabbai  Group: Members Posts: 676 Joined: 29-October 05 From: IT Member No.: 1,957 |
QUOTE (miri @ Sep 13 2006, 03:20 PM) and say al tvilas yadayim. unless you're Hook. |
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Sep 13 2006, 02:59 PM
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 Papier schreiben und sonstige Sachen als ersetzung für den geile Group: Members Posts: 8,306 Joined: 9-June 03 Member No.: 75 |
QUOTE (Tova @ Sep 13 2006, 02:44 PM) [So you can't add polls in Halacha , 'guess it's my way or the highway'-type of section.]What do you do if there's no washing cup around? Use a mug, drinking glass, plastic disposable, collapsible pill cup, move your hands under the faucet to mimic washing with a cup? Whats wrong with a mug or drinking glass? -------------------- טוב להתלונן מחר מלעשות משהו היום
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Sep 13 2006, 03:13 PM
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Back at Imamother - where I belong Group: Members Posts: 3,392 Joined: 20-October 05 Member No.: 1,939 |
I would use any cup or mug that is big enough to h old so much water. It's not that big a deal to me.
-------------------- The poster formerly known as "Live-from-New-York"
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Sep 13 2006, 03:14 PM
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Papier schreiben und sonstige Sachen als ersetzung für den geile Group: Members Posts: 8,306 Joined: 9-June 03 Member No.: 75 |
QUOTE (LiveFromNewYork @ Sep 13 2006, 04:13 PM) I would use any cup or mug that is big enough to h old so much water. It's not that big a deal to me. It was a big deal to Chazal who said that being mezalzel in netilas yadayim is a "segulah" for being poor. -------------------- טוב להתלונן מחר מלעשות משהו היום
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Sep 13 2006, 03:15 PM
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 Orthodox Ethiopian Hebrew Group: Members Posts: 3,470 Joined: 12-August 06 From: Bilad el-Sudan Member No.: 3,228 |
Mezalzel = lax?
-------------------- QUOTE (Moonspell - "Alma Mater") Mother tongue speaks to me in the strongest way Ive ever seen/I know that she sees in me her proudest child, her purest breed |
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Sep 13 2006, 03:15 PM
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 A Red Rose in a Black and White Movie. Group: Members Posts: 6,156 Joined: 30-March 04 Member No.: 466 |
QUOTE (melech @ Sep 13 2006, 02:50 PM) As for moving your hands under the faucet, what's usually recommended in extreme circumstances is to turn the faucet on and off rather than moving your hand in and out of the stream. כח גברא, eh? :wink: -------------------- .כלל הדבר, כי ראוי שיהיה השכל בן חורין -מהר"ל בחיד"א
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Sep 13 2006, 03:15 PM
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Papier schreiben und sonstige Sachen als ersetzung für den geile Group: Members Posts: 8,306 Joined: 9-June 03 Member No.: 75 |
Yup.
-------------------- טוב להתלונן מחר מלעשות משהו היום
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Sep 13 2006, 03:16 PM
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A Red Rose in a Black and White Movie. Group: Members Posts: 6,156 Joined: 30-March 04 Member No.: 466 |
QUOTE (Gabbe @ Sep 13 2006, 04:14 PM) It was a big deal to Chazal who said that being mezalzel in netilas yadayim is a "segulah" for being poor. Is that what they said? ETA: Yes, I looked it up, Gabbe, you are correct. ETA: Although in all fairness she said if it's "big enough to hold so much water", which is the point. -------------------- .כלל הדבר, כי ראוי שיהיה השכל בן חורין -מהר"ל בחיד"א
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Sep 13 2006, 03:16 PM
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 Gedoles Hador Group: Members Posts: 9,654 Joined: 26-May 05 Member No.: 1,532 |
QUOTE (doodlehead @ Sep 13 2006, 01:50 PM) If you have a cup with handles (non disposable) use it. What if you have a regular washing cup and one of the handles broke off? Is there any "use" to it that's special or should I just throw it out? -------------------- Many people wish they could change their life, when all they really need to do is change their attitude towards life. - Sharon
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Sep 13 2006, 03:18 PM
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Papier schreiben und sonstige Sachen als ersetzung für den geile Group: Members Posts: 8,306 Joined: 9-June 03 Member No.: 75 |
QUOTE (Aristotle @ Sep 13 2006, 04:16 PM) ETA: Yes, I looked it up, Gabbe, you are correct. Phew...I didn't. I sorta vaguely remembered it. -------------------- טוב להתלונן מחר מלעשות משהו היום
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Sep 13 2006, 03:23 PM
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A Red Rose in a Black and White Movie. Group: Members Posts: 6,156 Joined: 30-March 04 Member No.: 466 |
QUOTE (Gabbe @ Sep 13 2006, 04:18 PM) Phew...I didn't. I sorta vaguely remembered it. Brachos 19a. -------------------- .כלל הדבר, כי ראוי שיהיה השכל בן חורין -מהר"ל בחיד"א
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