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#1 skifree

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:57 AM

Friday nt we had a 17 yr old guy who invited himself over. His parents went away. He is very yeshivish and goes to a yehiva in boropark. They don't learn any english. He told us s/t very shocking that I never heard. His rosh yeshiva and the Brisker rav in eretz yisroel hold yeshiva guys don't fast because talmid torah is deoraysa and fasting is deranbanan. This is a major chiddush to say one does not have to fast. My husband had real fun bashing him. I told my husband he cant bash the brisker rav who is so great even if the idea seems nuts. Anyone heard of this. I found it a fascination discussion. The guy said he's coming over on the fast to ask for a sprite. My husband said he'll kick him out. They were play fighting. Discuss!
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 08:59 AM

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:01 AM

Friday nt we had a 17 yr old guy who invited himself over. His parents went away. He is very yeshivish and goes to beis hatalmud in boropark. They don't learn any english. He told us s/t very shocking that I never heard. His rosh yeshiva and the Brisker rav in eretz yisroel hold yeshiva guys don't fast because talmid torah is deoraysa and fasting is deranbanan. This is a major chiddush to say one does not have to fast. My husband had real fun bashing him. I told my husband he cant bash the brisker rav who is so great even if the idea seems nuts. Anyone heard of this. I found it a fascination discussion. The guy said he's coming over on the fast to ask for a sprite. My husband said he'll kick him out. They were play fighting. Discuss!

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It makes sense to me ...whats the point of fasting if it's going to make your dan non-productive.

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It might make sense but ppl ordinarily can't just decide to take away a major minhag because of these reasonings.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:02 AM

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:07 AM

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:09 AM

Friday nt we had a 17 yr old guy who invited himself over. His parents went away.  He is very yeshivish and goes to beis hatalmud in boropark. They don't learn any english. 


I should hope that at 17 years old, he knows English and does not need to learn it.

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Well, how old is skifree that she nneeds to learn English.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:10 AM

It is a known mishugas of the briskers. The real litvaks have traditions that don't need to pander to modern yeshivishe sensibilities.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:12 AM

It is a known mishugas of the briskers. The real litvaks have traditions that don't need to pander to modern yeshivishe sensibilities.

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I didn't know this mishugas until now. You never know-alu vealu divrei chayim. We'll find out when mashiach comes.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:15 AM

It is a known mishugas of the briskers. The real litvaks have traditions that don't need to pander to modern yeshivishe sensibilities.

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I didn't know this mishugas until now. You never know-alu vealu divrei chayim. We'll find out when mashiach comes.

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Call me bitter, but I hope mashiach has more important things to worry about.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:17 AM

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:18 AM

I have heard the same argument regarding Maariv for people that learn all night.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:18 AM

It is a known mishugas of the briskers. The real litvaks have traditions that don't need to pander to modern yeshivishe sensibilities.

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I didn't know this mishugas until now. You never know-alu vealu divrei chayim. We'll find out when mashiach comes.

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Call me bitter, but I hope mashiach has more important things to worry about.

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I don't know about that. That could be pretty important.

my rule:
just get a rabbi to tell me I don't have to fast and I'm in the clear

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Won't happen.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:21 AM

I don't know about that.  That could be pretty important.

my rule:
just get a rabbi to tell me I don't have to fast and I'm in the clear

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Won't happen.

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Now if you were a woman...
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:31 AM

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:32 AM


Won't happen.

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happened for my wedding, and it happens for every fast except TB and YK.

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So what's the excuse?
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:33 AM

My brother went to Brisk in Eretz Yisrael, and he most certainly fasts. When he's not up to learning, he says tehillim.

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:33 AM

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:34 AM

My brother went to Brisk in Eretz Yisrael, and he most certainly fasts. When he's not up to learning, he says tehillim.

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But his rosh yeshiva doesn't.
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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:36 AM

my rule:
just get a rabbi to tell me I don't have to fast and I'm in the clear

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In Europe the bachurim didn't fast.
So, if we follow the Europe rule......

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Posted 10 January 2006 - 09:38 AM

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