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#1 elisha

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 08:54 PM

Has anyone been to the Belz Shul? If so:

1. Is it worth going to for a Shabbos morning?
2. Will it be extremely croweded?
3. If yes for #2 will I have a seat?
4. Do weekday minyans take place in the main sanctuary or will I have to go for Shabbos to daven in it?
5. Do you think a Modern Orthodox Baal Teshuva would be made to feel uncomfortable there?

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 09:02 PM

Has anyone been to the Belz Shul? If so:

1. Is it worth going to for a Shabbos morning?
2. Will it be extremely croweded?
3. If yes for #2 will I have a seat?
4. Do weekday minyans take place in the main sanctuary or will I have to go for Shabbos to daven in it?
5. Do you think a Modern Orthodox Baal Teshuva would be made to feel uncomfortable there?

1- Night is better.

2- Yes, probably.

3- Probably.

4- Only on Shabbes.

5- No.

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Posted 10 June 2007 - 09:03 PM

Oooh... how I loved going there...
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 03:24 AM

I agree with mosheshmeal. (On all 5 answers.)

Friday night is really something there. You'll get a seat because if you don't have one when the Belz Chassidim see you standing around they will point to seats that are available. Just realize those seats could be in the middle of a long row so you won't be able to run in and out if you need that for any reason.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 05:53 PM

I know a lot of people enjoy davening there. I was there once and found it VERY hard to concentrate.

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 07:26 PM

I found that with the exception of the slapper, and the uniforms, kabalat shabbat was similar to a MO service. Some people davening, some people shmoozing, no singing really.
They're very hospitable though. If youre lucky you get to shake the rebbes hand and get a bracha, and maybe even a meal invite.
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Posted 11 June 2007 - 08:34 PM

Elisha, if you'd like me to arrange for someone to look after you there, (place, meal, place at the tish - if there is one that week) please PM me.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 05:03 AM

Elisha, if you'd like me to arrange for someone to look after you there, (place, meal, place at the tish - if there is one that week) please PM me.

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Coolness! Why don't we make it into a H.com meet at the Rebbe's Tish... You know my great-grandfather was a Belzer...

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 06:12 AM

But our own Rebbe (from Kalashnikov, Russia) wants the meet to be at TAY.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 09:56 AM

Elisha, if you'd like me to arrange for someone to look after you there, (place, meal, place at the tish - if there is one that week) please PM me.

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Thank you for the offer moshe, but I am afraid it is going to be more of a family type of Israel trip and I am not sure if they would be comfortable at the Belz Shul. I will probably be wandering off to the shul friday night and saturday, but they may expect me to be back at some point. (They are not really religious and I am not sure I can be gone for all of shabbos like that, we will be I have heard at a hotel near the shul which is why I was asking though).

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 06:38 PM

Cool.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 04:33 AM

1- Night is better.

2- Yes, probably.

3- Probably.

4- Only on Shabbes.

5- No.

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I second this.

The leil shabbos tish there is nice. I like their niggunim. It's close (20 minutes walking) to my home. Used to go there often on leil shabbos when I had just moved here.

Then I developed a kesher to a smaller and somewhat more extreme chassidus in the city and so now I go there on leil shabbos (in the winter; in the summer I usually don't make it after the seudah since it's a 50-minute walk). But even there - and in fact at any chassidishe place - nobody will make you feel uncomfortable. There are quite often visitors there also, and my group is one of the fundamental groups of the Eidah.

Belz understandably has more visitors. They are really used to non-chareidi visitors there.

By the way, I've only been in the main shul once, on Shabbos just before minchah time. It is quite impressive, though from the inside it's not as big as it seems when you are standing in front of it.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 04:35 AM

Thank you for the offer moshe, but I am afraid it is going to be more of a family type of Israel trip and I am not sure if they would be comfortable at the Belz Shul. I will probably be wandering off to the shul friday night and saturday, but they may expect me to be back at some point. (They are not really religious and I am not sure I can be gone for all of shabbos like that, we will be I have heard at a hotel near the shul which is why I was asking though).


Probably one of the hotels around the Central Bus Station? Then I definitely recommend taking a walk into Meah Shearim on leil shabbos also. It's wonderful to see everybody there taking a leil shabbos walk with the whole family, and NO cars around. That's when you feel the kedushoh of Yerusholaim.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:02 AM

Thank you for the offer moshe, but I am afraid it is going to be more of a family type of Israel trip and I am not sure if they would be comfortable at the Belz Shul. I will probably be wandering off to the shul friday night and saturday, but they may expect me to be back at some point. (They are not really religious and I am not sure I can be gone for all of shabbos like that, we will be I have heard at a hotel near the shul which is why I was asking though).


The Caesar? Jerusalem Gold? Yeah, they're not too far away. Biyan is also near those hotels. Stropkov is next to Mosad HaRav Kook. The Stropkover Rebbe is very nice. BTW, it's filled with all kinds, lots of kippah sruggahs in particular, in case that makes a difference.

I find that Karliners really go out of their way to be welcoming. However, the Rebbe only comes into on Shabbath Mevorkhim, and the tish finishes very early, by tish standards.

I usually would go to Toldos Avraham Yitzhaq in Me'ah Sha'arim, sometimes Toldos Aharon.

The Belzer Beth haMidrash is worth seeing. I was downstairs from it for a pidoyon haben a few years ago. The father's brother had "the keys," and let us in for a peek!
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 07:00 AM

Boyan, you mean. Their tish is also only on shabbos mevorchim. I've taken a look there once on the way to my own Rebbe's tish.
Stropkov I've never been, even though I live close to it.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 03:15 AM

Boyan, you mean. Their tish is also only on shabbos mevorchim. I've taken a look there once on the way to my own Rebbe's tish.
Stropkov I've never been, even though I live close to it.


Your PM's not working, so...

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