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Posted 06 January 2009 - 02:21 AM

The Tur links RCh with Purim with regard to eating, and links both to simchat YT.
Does that mean that those who hold one needs bread and/or meat at the Purim se'udah hold the same way for the RCh meal?

What do you mean needs bread? How do you have a seuda without bread?

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 07:10 AM

Does that mean that those who hold one needs bread and/or meat at the Purim se'udah hold the same way for the RCh meal?

I'm not sure about the interconnection, but I was always taught one has to have fleishige seudah (with bread) on Purim, and on Rosh Chodesh as well (+ fish).

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 07:45 AM

And Mimi, did the religious instructors who told you there's an obligation to have a bread meal on Rosh Chodesh also tell you to repeat birkat hamazon if you forget ya'aleh ve-yavo? Because one follows from the others.

The point is, it's nice to promulgate these fluffy practices, but there are often halachic implications and confusing a feel good practice with a halachic obligation can lead to an issur d'orayta of a berachah le-vatalah if you actually believe those teachers.

I see your point, interesting (and actually no, I was taught not to repeat birkas hamazon...). But in the OP you said that there are "those who hold" that it is indeed an obligation...

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Posted 06 January 2009 - 09:04 AM

Right, I think most will hold it's an obligation to eat bread on Purim. I think.
On Rosh Chodesh we don't repeat bentching because even though there's a halachic issur to fast, I don't think there's an actual halachic obligation to have a bread seudah.

But on Purim we also don't repeat Birkas Hamazon if we forget Al Hanissim, or am I mixing everything up?

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Posted 02 April 2009 - 10:27 PM

The Tur links RCh with Purim with regard to eating, and links both to simchat YT.
Does that mean that those who hold one needs bread and/or meat at the Purim se'udah hold the same way for the RCh meal?

I am only aware of eating a special treat or something that one would normally have on YT, or shbbbat on RH, but a big meal

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Posted 03 April 2009 - 09:19 AM

Right - Maerbe b'seudah k'tzaaas.
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