[krumlikeapretzel]

asoul, on Jul 14 2009, 09:09 AM, said:

During World War II the mass blood of Jews (prisoners of concentration camps ) was used for transfusion to German soldiers.

Does it mean that today Jewish DNA is present in German nation?

As other people have pointed out, a blood transfusion will not change your genetic make-up.
As other people have also pointed out, there is no "Jewish DNA" per se, even the much mentioned Cohen Modal Haplotype aka "Y-chromosomal Aaron" which has been used to "prove" Ashkenazi Jews and Palestinians "share common ancestors" (within the last few thousand years) exists in many (all?) non-Jewish groups, just in different proportions.
After centuries of forced conversions, followed by assimilation and intermarriage, not to mention child abductions and sporadic defections, there's plenty of Jewish ancestry in any country with such a long Jewish history as Germany. And this is even without assuming that the majority of the gene pool of Ashkenazi Jewry is of Germanic and Slavic, as opposed to Middle-Eastern, ancestry.

[Jewcepticon]

krumlikeapretzel, on Nov 20 2009, 03:57 PM, said:

As other people have pointed out, a blood transfusion will not change your genetic make-up.
As other people have also pointed out, there is no "Jewish DNA" per se, even the much mentioned Cohen Modal Haplotype aka "Y-chromosomal Aaron" which has been used to "prove" Ashkenazi Jews and Palestinians "share common ancestors" (within the last few thousand years) exists in many (all?) non-Jewish groups, just in different proportions.
After centuries of forced conversions, followed by assimilation and intermarriage, not to mention child abductions and sporadic defections, there's plenty of Jewish ancestry in any country with such a long Jewish history as Germany. And this is even without assuming that the majority of the gene pool of Ashkenazi Jewry is of Germanic and Slavic, as opposed to Middle-Eastern, ancestry.

So your saying Ashkenazim are mostly decendants of gerim?

[warren]

Jewcepticon, on Nov 23 2009, 02:24 PM, said:

So your saying Ashkenazim are mostly decendants of gerim?

The ashkenazim were wiped out to the last person during the holocaust and the sefaradim all convereted to Catholicism rather than leave Spain and Portugal. All that are left are demons, who walk the earth disguised as Jews, keeping the old hatreds alive.

[krumlikeapretzel]

Jewcepticon, on Nov 23 2009, 06:24 AM, said:

So your saying Ashkenazim are mostly decendants of gerim?

Probably. That doesn't mean "as opposed to Sephardim" by the way.

[Ezrahite]

Jewcepticon, on Nov 20 2009, 01:54 PM, said:

This reminds me of when people claim morocco has one of the "largest Jewish populations in Middle east" despite being in Africa!

Iran is Central Asia it has about as much of it in the middle east as say turkey.... the vast majority of Iran borders other central asian "stans"

I use the term in the pre-WWI sense. Duh.

[Jewcepticon]

Ezrahite, on Nov 24 2009, 12:16 AM, said:

I use the term in the pre-WWI sense. Duh.

Pre WW1 most of you guys where borderline Middle East as Hungary and other Areas bordering the ottomon empire where like outposts of europe, cowboys among indians

krumlikeapretzel, on Nov 23 2009, 02:40 PM, said:

Probably. That doesn't mean "as opposed to Sephardim" by the way.

So Ashkenazim are Germans and Sephardim are Arabs? well somebody tell the Arabs that Israel is already an Arab state then.

[David F]

krumlikeapretzel, on Nov 20 2009, 10:48 PM, said:

Where, alas, is that kind of Jewish DNA in Beis Yaakov?

Haven't you read cynic's footer?

[Monte Cristo]

Jewcepticon, on Nov 24 2009, 05:07 AM, said:

Pre WW1 most of you guys where borderline Middle East as Hungary and other Areas bordering the ottomon empire where like outposts of europe, cowboys among indians

So Ashkenazim are Germans and Sephardim are Arabs? well somebody tell the Arabs that Israel is already an Arab state then.

That would be like taking the "p'sak" that Palestinians are really long-long-long assimilated Jews seriously. If we did there would be more Jews for the arabs to hate and the Palestinians would have to do suicide bombings against Palestinians and kill each other for occupying their homeland.

[Naziri]

A few thoughts on posts in this thread:

1. Yes Iran still has a Jewish population but it is much smaller than it was historically.
2. Contrary to common Irani claims, the history of Jews in Iran is a tale of horrifying cycles of oppression and humiliation, see the Meshad genocide for the most recent example.
3. Palestinians are more than likely ancestrally Jewish in large part (and there are similarly surprisingly many Mediterranean Arabs who can site a Jewish grandparent or great-grand parent). Many of Palestinian customs are Jewish and their kufiyat are identical to Yemeni tallitot minus the Rabbinic knotting of the tzitzit. Of course this is not the same for all Palestinians, as the infamous Al-Husseini Nazi clan were Hanafi fiqh practitioners who came in to the area after Salaah ud-Deen (who also invited Jews back by proxy of the Rambam, his personal physician).