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#21 cynic

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:41 AM

Some did.

Can you name some?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:47 AM

Can you name some?


After he did Tschuvah, Rebbe Akiva...

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 10:50 AM

Anyone else? I would expect based on the number of people that worked, a list of at least 100 who learned in kollel.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 11:05 AM

Anyone else? I would expect based on the number of people that worked, a list of at least 100 who learned in kollel.


Rebbi Shimon

Rebbi Eliezer

Rebbi Yehuda

Rebbi Meir

Rav Kahane

Rav Yochanan

Rish Lakish (after he gave up being a highway robber.)

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 11:34 AM

1) Are you sure about all those?
2) I still don't see 100 or so names. So am I correct in presuming that 99% had jobs?

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:07 PM

1) Are you sure about all those?
2) I still don't see 100 or so names. So am I correct in presuming that 99% had jobs?


Yes.

I'm not quite sure it's that high, but clearly a significant portion had jobs as did a significant portion study torah full time. Someone would have to do a comprehensive study that could take months.

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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:11 PM

Yes.

I'm not quite sure it's that high, but clearly a significant portion had jobs as did a significant portion study torah full time. Someone would have to do a comprehensive study that could take months.


How come the Chazal didn't think they were the kohanim that should be supported by the rest of the klal?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:17 PM

How come the Chazal didn't think they were the kohanim that should be supported by the rest of the klal?

Well for starters the "rest of the klal" wasn't overly fond of talmedi chachamim at that period in time......
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 01:22 PM

Well for starters the "rest of the klal" wasn't overly fond of talmedi chachamim at that period in time......


What makes you say that?
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:02 PM

What makes you say that?

the fact that the gemara is replete with vivid descriptions of the hatred amei ha'aretz bore towrds talmidei chachomim, such as rabbi akiva's assertion that when he was an am ha'aretz, he wanted to bite talmidei chachamim "like a donkey", because a donkey's bite breaks the bones.
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Posted 26 October 2009 - 07:26 PM

After he did Tschuvah, Rebbe Akiva...

People that think that R' Akiva started out as some kind of a freier are sorely mistaken.
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Posted 27 October 2009 - 07:56 AM

People that think that R' Akiva started out as some kind of a freier are sorely mistaken.


No. But he had a job.

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Posted 27 October 2009 - 08:38 AM

People that think that R' Akiva started out as some kind of a freier are sorely mistaken.

Based on what?
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Posted 13 June 2011 - 10:13 PM

never did become a cucumber-watcher, did ya sav? :biggrin:
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Posted 14 June 2011 - 02:14 AM

Sav,

Where did you find that ad?

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 02:35 AM

Nevermind.

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Posted 14 June 2011 - 08:19 AM

never did become a cucumber-watcher, did ya sav? :biggrin:

Sadly, that is one dream that shall go unrealized. :rofl:

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 10:09 AM

Well for starters the "rest of the klal" wasn't overly fond of talmedi chachamim at that period in time......


And now the rest of the klal loves talmedi chachamim? Daily news from Israel says otherwise.
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Posted 15 June 2011 - 01:01 PM

And now the rest of the klal loves talmedi chachamim? Daily news from Israel says otherwise.



I don't think so. There are some talmidei chachamim in Israel, but they are not the people in those articles......

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