[existwhere?]

Would you send your kids to a school, if you knew the principal smoked?
What if he used to smoke and now doesn't any more?

[Savannah]

existwhere?, on Nov 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Would you send your kids to a school, if you knew the principal smoked?
What if he used to smoke and now doesn't any more?

Yes.

[Psychodad]

existwhere?, on Nov 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Would you send your kids to a school, if you knew the principal smoked?

Does he smoke on school grounds? That would be a no, if that were the case.

existwhere?, on Nov 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

What if he used to smoke and now doesn't any more?

Idiotic question

[krumlikeapretzel]

existwhere?, on Nov 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Would you send your kids to a school, if you knew the principal smoked?
What if he used to smoke and now doesn't any more?

What if he smokes salmon?
... pastrami?

Spoiler

... camels?

[Kalashnikover_Rebbe]

existwhere?, on Nov 6 2009, 08:31 PM, said:

Would you send your kids to a school, if you knew the principal smoked?
What if he used to smoke and now doesn't any more?

Do you have ANY idea how many gedolim smoke/d???

[KolDmamaDaka]

Kalashnikover_Rebbe, on Nov 7 2009, 07:05 PM, said:

Do you have ANY idea how many gedolim smoke/d???

Your point being?

Quoth Kohelet 7:20

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For there is not a righteous man upon earth who does good and sins not.

[Kalashnikover_Rebbe]

KolDmamaDaka, on Nov 7 2009, 08:19 PM, said:

Your point being?

My point being that if you adopt a policy of not allowing your kids to go to a school where the principal/Rosh Yeshiva smokes, you would be eliminating quite a prestigious group of talmedi chachamim and Torah educators.....

[Pinchas]

Kalashnikover_Rebbe, on Nov 8 2009, 02:05 AM, said:

My point being that if you adopt a policy of not allowing your kids to go to a school where the principal/Rosh Yeshiva smokes, you would be eliminating quite a prestigious group of talmedi chachamim and Torah educators.....

They aren't talmedi chachamim if they smoke.

[krumlikeapretzel]

Kalashnikover_Rebbe, on Nov 7 2009, 12:05 PM, said:

Do you have ANY idea how many gedolim smoke/d???

x100

Pinchas, on Nov 7 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

They aren't talmedi chachamim if they smoke.

WHOA.

KolDmamaDaka, on Nov 7 2009, 01:19 PM, said:

Your point being?

Quoth Kohelet 7:20

ETA: Pinchas, and KDD,

It is a fact that there's a lot of hype and bias involved in anti-tobacco "studies". If you want to play it safe by not smoking that's great. If you want to educate your kids not to smoke to stay on the safe side that's great too. If you decide not to send your kids to a good school for the sole reason that the menahel is a smoker I'd say you're biased and mistaken, but they're your kids and it's your money so it's your prerogative. But to judge people so severely on the basis of highly controversial semi-science is just plain wrong.

[Shemmy]

Pinchas, on Nov 7 2009, 07:29 PM, said:

They aren't talmedi chachamim if they smoke.

Quoted for reference in case anyone thinks my views are asinine.

[Belle]

existwhere?, on Nov 6 2009, 01:31 PM, said:

Would you send your kids to a school, if you knew the principal smoked?

Sure. That way, when the principal dies, my kids will have learned a valuable lesson about the dangers of smoking.

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What if he used to smoke and now doesn't any more?

Then he's a hero, so sure.

krumlikeapretzel, on Nov 7 2009, 10:04 PM, said:

highly controversial semi-science

What's so controversial and non-scientific about this:

[Belle]

Shemmy, on Nov 7 2009, 10:34 PM, said:

Quoted for reference in case anyone thinks my views are asinine.

Would you respect a haham who drove without a seatbelt?

I wouldn't.

[Shuli]

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[Belle]

Shuli, on Nov 8 2009, 01:04 AM, said:

Really? All of their good works, all of their learning, all of their middos is for naught because they do one thing you disapprove of?

I disapprove of it very strongly. I wouldn't speak against him to anyone, but I, personally, would not be able to respect him.

[Shuli]

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[krumlikeapretzel]

Belle, on Nov 7 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

Thanks for giving me ammunition.

Here we go. The smoker's lung is black because of cancer. A non-smoker with lung cancer will also have a black lung. The non-smoker's lung isn't black becuase it doesn't have cancer. Any smoker that doesn't have cancer has a lung that looks like that. There is no mechanism that blackens a lung other than cancer. None.
Most smokers don't get lung cancer, and there's plenty of non-smokers who get lung cancer.

Belle, on Nov 7 2009, 11:16 PM, said:

Sure. That way, when the principal dies, my kids will have learned a valuable lesson about the dangers of smoking.

So you're assuming that just becuase he smokes he'll die from smoking? Or will they just wait till he dies of whatever and then blame it on smoking?

[Shuli]

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[Belle]

Shuli, on Nov 8 2009, 01:27 AM, said:

Wow.

*shrug*

You have extreme views on caring for your elders; I have extreme views on health promotion and safety.

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(BTW, you didn't show up. I was sad. )

YOU were sad?

krumlikeapretzel, on Nov 8 2009, 01:34 AM, said:

Thanks for giving me ammunition.

For someone who manages to come across as smart, you sure can come across as a half-wit too.

Poor argument, by the way.

[Shuli]

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[Belle]

Shuli, on Nov 8 2009, 01:53 AM, said:

I have no extreme views on anything. I am the very model of moderation.

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I even cleaned out the tank for you...

Aren't you a doll! Was your food as good as it sounded?