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#1 usuario

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 10:51 PM

Bathurst St. in Toronto? Cote St. Luc in Montreal, anywhere else with a good shomer Torah community, that's not too frum. I need to find one that's welcoming to outsiders because I plan on just showing up one day and joining in without telling them I'm a ger (with a questionable halachi backing). I have an idea that Jews, like any other minority group in Canada, are more inward focusing, so I'd like to live in a community that's open-minded to others.

I hate cold weather, so I was originally thinking of Vancouver. But is there an establish Jewish community in Vancouver or the Lower Mainland of B.C.?

#2 Rentsy

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Posted 09 May 2010 - 11:00 PM

Well, are you a ger? If you aren't a ger, you shouldn't deceive these nice strangers, that would be mean.

I've been to Toronto, quite nice.
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Posted 10 May 2010 - 05:57 AM

I hate cold weather

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#4 yoel

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Posted 10 May 2010 - 07:28 AM

I'm with Rentsy... are you a geir or aren't you? If you're not, please go through geiris, if only for your own sake, to say nothing of the notion of deceiving people.

Scenario: you present yourself for shachris davening as a Yid. There are nine others. Suddenly, you're causing the chazan to commit the sin of bracha lavatala, a blessing in vain, repeatedly. This is using G-d's name in vain and a serious matter. If you're not a geir by way of a recognized orthodox beis din, you need to rectify that before you present yourself as such.
וזה עקר צער של ישראל שיש להם בגלות
הכל הוא מחמת שנפלו מהדעת ותולין
הכל בטבע ובמקרים ובמזל

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 05:48 PM

Maybe what the op was trying to convey is that he would like to be considered a Jew,without telling people he went through a conversion because he is afraid born Jews will give him the cold shoulder.

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 06:43 PM

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#7 Tel Aviv

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:51 PM

eh, I think they'll know anyways. He doesn't look remotely jewish...he doesn't even have a nose.


Nice :biggrin:


So, is the nose inherited down the mother's line? Is that why this rule came to be?
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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:57 PM

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#9 usuario

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 03:56 PM

eh, I think they'll know anyways. He doesn't look remotely jewish...he doesn't even have a nose.


Hey, there are lots of Canadians on h.com and none of them have noses. Are you saying none of them are Jewish?*

Maybe what the op was trying to convey is that he would like to be considered a Jew,without telling people he went through a conversion because he is afraid born Jews will give him the cold shoulder.


You're right. Whether someone can eat by my house shouldn't depend on the reputation of who's on my beit din. If it's a halachic conversion, then I'm a Jew like everyone else in the congregation.

*You won't get this unless you're familiar with South Park.

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Posted 13 January 2011 - 07:40 PM

Bathurst St. in Toronto? Cote St. Luc in Montreal, anywhere else with a good shomer Torah community, that's not too frum. I need to find one that's welcoming to outsiders because I plan on just showing up one day and joining in without telling them I'm a ger (with a questionable halachi backing). I have an idea that Jews, like any other minority group in Canada, are more inward focusing, so I'd like to live in a community that's open-minded to others.

I hate cold weather, so I was originally thinking of Vancouver. But is there an establish Jewish community in Vancouver or the Lower Mainland of B.C.?

There's a small community in Vancouver. Do you have C$1M for a small house? Vancouver is crazy.
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