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#1 writer.at.heart415

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:01 PM

All I can find online is that at the First Zionist Conference, when they chose the flag creation, they chose blue stripes for the tzitzit, but I can't find if there was a reason they chose the Jewish Star in the middle - can anyone think of a reason?
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:07 PM

did you try wikipedia?
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:12 PM

Because it *was* the Jewish state. As to the source of the star, see this thread.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:38 PM

i once asked rav avigdor nebenzahl about the meaning of the md, and he said it was possibly david's seal/signature, since in ancient hebrew (ksav ivri) the dalet is a triangle, and it was not uncommon for people to use the first and last letters of a proper noun as it's representation (לדוגמא י-ם), king dovid signed his name with two interlocking triangles.

if he is correct, then perhaps they adopted it because david is one of the 'acceptable' biblical figures to the zionist mentality.

but dan is probably correct - regardless of it's actual origin, it has signified jews for many years, so the jewish state adopted it as their symbol.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:43 PM

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:52 PM

Bull. It isn't mentioned anywhere in Shas or apparently even the Zohar.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:56 PM

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 07:59 PM

This sort of anachronism reminds me of the vertel of how Haman rolled dice and determined that he would succeed, since the tops of the dice showed 1-3-3 (Agag) and the bottoms showed 6-4-4 (David).

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"The despotism of heaven is the one absolutely perfect government. An earthly despotism would be the absolutely perfect earthly government, if the conditions were the same; namely, the despot the perfectest individual of the human race, and his lease of life perpetual. But as a perishable perfect man must die, and leave his despotism in the hands of an imperfect successor, an earthly despotism is not merely a bad form of government, it is the worst form that is possible."

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 08:14 PM

It's because it was common for talleisim to have a magen david on them. The entire flag is supposed to be a stylized tallis.
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 08:36 PM

It's because it was common for talleisim to have a magen david on them. The entire flag is supposed to be a stylized tallis.


Do you have a source for that?
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:06 PM

Perhaps the fact that it's called a "Jewish Star" has something to do with it.....
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Posted 17 June 2010 - 09:24 PM

Um, because it's a Jewish country?

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 06:03 AM

Actually. Nobody knows :)

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 08:30 AM

The star symbolizes a core Jewish belief that Hashem is everywhere, pointing in all six directions, in the heavens and the earth, east, west, south , north, similar to our shaking the esrog/lulav in 6 directions.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:42 AM

Did you find a satisfactory explanation, Writer? Please share...

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 01:43 PM

Did you find a satisfactory explanation, Writer? Please share...


They're all pretty good. Nothing concrete yet.
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"If patriarchy had a specific beginning in history, it can also have an end" - Maria Mies

"...I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat" - Rebecca West

"Only the woman whose neck is bent will bear the oppressor’s heel"

"Well-behaved women don't make history" - Laurel Thatcher Ullrich

"We are the women men warned us about" - Robin Morgan

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 02:47 PM

I was told it was the Seal of Solomon a ring he wore to call up demons, as i don't believe in demons?.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:09 PM

It's because it was common for talleisim to have a magen david on them. The entire flag is supposed to be a stylized tallis.


I heard that was the reason for the stripes part not the star part.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 06:10 PM

The Mogen David has been part of Jewish symbolism for centuries.
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 03:34 AM

Mogen Dovid actually means Shield of David not Star of David as it's often mistranslated into. I heard that's exactly what it was - armor for David's soldiers. Imagine putting your head through the top triangle, your arms through the other two on top, your legs through the bottom ones and there is a little something to protect the groin area.

One explanation is that the blue stripes represent the splitting sea and the Mogen Dovid represents the Jews walking between it.

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