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Why did Israel choose the Jewish Star on the Israeli flag?


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Posted 17 August 2010 - 05:32 AM

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#22 Pinchas

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:53 AM

I think because it's a Jewish state.


By why the Mogen Dovid? For example the Menorah has always been the symbol of the Jewish people - it's even on the official seal of Israel...

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:29 AM

By why the Mogen Dovid? For example the Menorah has always been the symbol of the Jewish people - it's even on the official seal of Israel...

Because it's more traditional to have a star on a flag? Because a star is easier to draw than a menorah?

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 09:41 AM

This gov't website explains that they davka didn't want a religious symbol. Obviously associated with Judaism, but not religious per se:

http://www.mfa.gov.i... and the Emblem

I thought this comment on wiki was interesting:

http://en.wikipedia..../Flag_of_Israel

That is interesting, thanks. Also, you can see that my comment that "stars on flags is traditional" is not so off the mark.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 01:57 PM

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:01 PM

The star symbolizes a core Jewish belief that Hashem is everywhere, pointing in all six directions, in the heavens and the earth, east, west, south , north, similar to our shaking the esrog/lulav in 6 directions.


This gov't website explains that they davka didn't want a religious symbol. Obviously associated with Judaism, but not religious per se...


If what I believe to be the Zohar's interpretation of the Magen Dovid is accepted, then in turns out that Israel inadvertently adopted a quintessentially religious symbol.

Ironic happenstance? ... or Hashgochah Protis?

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#31 Geshmak

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 06:58 PM

Where does the zohar describe and discuss the 2 dimensional hexagram, the six pointed star that points outward in six directions along one plane?


I don't really know for sure if it's in the Zohar, but I now see it mentioned here: http://www.aish.com/...k/48942436.html

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

There was a plan for the flag to have seven stars, representing the seven hours of the socialist work day.

Also, the nile and euphrates and Greater Israel and Lechi.
רמב"ם הלכות תשובה פרק העשירי, הלכה ב

העובד מאהבה - עוסק בתורה ובמצוות והולך במתיבות החוכמה לא מפני דבר בעולם, לא מפני יראת הרעה ולא כדי לירש הטובה, אלא עושה האמת מפני שהוא אמת

הלכה ג

אהבה גדולה יתרה רבה עזה עד מאד, עד שתהא נפשו קשורה באהבת השם ... וכל שיר השירים משל הוא לענין זה

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:19 PM

It's not in the Zohar. The hexagram is not described in the Zohar.


I wouldn't know as I have not studied the Zohar yet, but how do you know for sure? Have you read it all?

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 07:53 PM

Find it in the Zohar and then we'll talk. I'm not the one who made the claim it's in the Zohar.


No such claim, I only said that it is "what I believe to be the Zohar's interpretation of the Magen Dovid," not having any direct knowledge of it. You just said that it not there, so I'm simply curious how you would know that. I admit I never studied Zohar yet, and I'm not even sure if it's a multi-volume or one sefer.

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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:23 PM

I admit I never studied Zohar yet, and I'm not even sure if it's a multi-volume or one sefer.

the base work is tripartite, with the appended works such as the tikkunim and zohar chodosh adding to the count.
"Spiritual wants and instincts are as various in the human family as are physical appetites, complexions, and features, and a man is only at his best, morally, when he is equipped with the religious garment whose color and shape and size most nicely accommodate themselves to the spiritual complexion, angularities, and stature of the individual who wears it."

"The despotism of heaven is the one absolutely perfect government. An earthly despotism would be the absolutely perfect earthly government, if the conditions were the same; namely, the despot the perfectest individual of the human race, and his lease of life perpetual. But as a perishable perfect man must die, and leave his despotism in the hands of an imperfect successor, an earthly despotism is not merely a bad form of government, it is the worst form that is possible."

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Posted 22 January 2015 - 12:34 PM

Mogen Dovid actually means Shield of David not Star of David as it's often mistranslated into. I heard that's exactly what it was

 

 

  Yes, that makes sense when you read God's word to Abram that said; Do not be afraid , Abram. I am your sheild, your very great reward. And you see that play out when David faced Goliath who was covered in armor and had a shield bearer. 

 

And that word came to Abram when Melchizedek blessed Abram and God together, in the valley of kings after he rescued Lot. And then God confirmed that word, it is confirmed in heaven and on earth. As Abram also didn't accept any reward from the king of Sodom. 



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Posted 17 October 2015 - 09:20 AM

 So, some Palestinians think they can desecrate Joseph's tomb. But they do not know that Joseph walked in and was carried in, the blessing of Abraham, and that, like Abraham, he is a man who did not serve his own image. So, all they accomplished is bringing a curse on themselves.

 

I have no fear of walking the streets occupied by the Palestinians, without any weapons. And it isn't with some false security, they are free to kill me if they so choose. I know that Abel, Enoch, Noah, Shem, Japheth, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebeccah, Leah, Joseph, then Israel, Moses, Joshua, Caleb, Hannah, Samuel, David, Jonathan, Sampson, Elijah, the three boys in the book of Daniel and so many more, knew that God shared the first and final judgement in One, from the start, thus giving them the life to look foreword too and Sabbath rest. You can see it in all their stories, in many details.

 

The saying that the devil is in the details is not true at all. All the facets on the High Priests vestment belong to God.

 

P.S. What I said about walking down the Palestinians streets is just me, wanting to move on from this world. I know the police and military are there to protect the citizens of Israel, and I know they do an excellent job.



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Posted 22 April 2016 - 03:53 PM

pinchas is right , its the shield of david symbol






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