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#1 Geshmak

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:11 AM

Do you learn Daf Yomi? If so, is it with a live shiur, chavrusa, recording, online, or a solo endeavour? Or combination thereof?

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:12 AM

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:22 AM

Yes. Live shiur before Shachris. Then I download Rabbi Rosner's shiur and try to listen on I-Pod while commuting/traveling. I also have the "ShasPod" with Rabbi Grossman's shiurim pre-loaded and listen as well, or alternatively, from time to time. In the past, I've downloaded the OU Daf Yomi shiurim which are also good.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:41 AM

Yes. Live shiur before Shachris. Then I download Rabbi Rosner's shiur and try to listen on I-Pod while commuting/traveling. I also have the "ShasPod" with Rabbi Grossman's shiurim pre-loaded and listen as well, or alternatively, from time to time. In the past, In the past, I've downloaded the OU Daf Yomi shiurim which are also good.


Good! Kol Hakavod :)

There are also very good shaorim on the Sinai website it is called daf yomi katzar which
I found quite valuable for insight about the core structure of the daf - they are very well
organized with respect to this purpose.

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#6 Geshmak

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:46 AM

Thanks, David!

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 08:48 AM

That's permissible?


Well - taking into account that "vehgit bo yomam valil" and "obshacvecha o bekumcha" - you should think
about Torah night and day - when you wake up and when you go to sleep (and every other minute)...then
it would be ok :)

But if it would be something else it would be problematic of course...

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 09:00 AM

That's permissible?


Absolutely. Not that anecdotal evidence is proof, but I've been participating in a wonderful, well-attended pre-Shachris Daf Yomi shiur for 20 years, and I know that many other pre-Shachris shiurim abound. It's great way to start the day. Way way back in Camp Aguda we had the "cocoa club" encouraging early risers to learn before davening. I'm sure there are more authoritative sources as well.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 09:50 AM

That's permissible?

I believe if it's after one has said birchas Hatorah and it's in the sanctuary so that he won't get distracted/miss shacharis and/or he appoints a shaliach to remind him to go to shacharis, it would be permissible.
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:03 AM

I believe if it's after one has said birchas Hatorah and it's in the sanctuary so that he won't get distracted/miss shacharis and/or he appoints a shaliach to remind him to go to shacharis, it would be permissible.


Indeed, the times are set and the Gabboim, and others, make sure that Shachris starts on time.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:07 AM

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 10:57 AM

Right. But the issue here which I questioned is learning on one's own. That there's a heter for learning in the BHM or with a chaburah is immaterial.

I believe he said a shiur that was shown in shul or did I misunderstand?
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Posted 23 June 2010 - 11:06 AM

I believe he said a shiur that was shown in shul or did I misunderstand?


The live shiur I attend is in Shul, then I download another mp3 recorded shiur on to my I-Pod and listen on the road.

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 11:27 AM

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 11:30 AM

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Posted 23 June 2010 - 11:38 AM

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Posted 24 June 2010 - 04:51 PM

I'm not a fan of Daf Yomi. I don't see the point of covering large amounts of material and then just forgetting it.

i don't 'do the daf' myself, but i disagree with this blanket characterization. i think that for some people the sense of accomplishment which comes with completing masechtos is the only thing which motivates them to go to the shiur consistently. while they may not come away knowing the amount of material they would be learning with a slower, more intensive and reviewable regimen, they would likely not attend such a regimen so it's hakol revach.
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Posted 24 June 2010 - 04:59 PM

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