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#1 naphtaliq

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:49 AM

OK, I have a list of kibuddim, but I also vaguely remember that some are considered more important than others and that some are commonly combined while others aren't... Bueller, anyone?

Witnesses for Tena'im:
1)__________________________
2)__________________________

Witnesses for Kedushin:
1)_________________________
2)__________________________
Witnesses for Kesuba:
1)__________________________
2)__________________________
Sheva Brachos under Chuppa:
1&2)___________________
3)_____________________
4)_____________________
5)_____________________
6)_____________________
7)_____________________
Witnesses for Yichud:
1)__________________________
2)_________________________

After meal Sheva Brachos
Person who benches:
________________________
1)__________________________
2)__________________________
3)__________________________
4)__________________________
5)__________________________
6)__________________________
7)__________________________

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:55 AM

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:31 PM

Personally, I think witnesses for the ketuvah are the biggest kibbud since they will be on the ketuvah, and possibly displayed on the dining room wall, forever.


So one should select witnesses who have attractive handwriting.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 12:32 PM

My brother believes, and I agree with him, that the Witnesses for Kedushin are the highest. They are the most important and the entire validity of the marriage rests on them.

However, in our world most people perceive the 7th bracha under the chuppah as being the highest honor, simply because it involves singing and people like singing.

So one should select witnesses who have attractive handwriting.


Or very cool names (like mine... hamavin yavin.)

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:05 PM

The sheva brachot under the chupah is what I cared about the most. It was mostly rabbis who were important to us.

I don't remember who my kiddushin eidim were. (Isn't it a smarter move to not have someone with impeccable credentials as kiddushin? As an insurance in case you need an out later? Hmm.) Shomer shabbos friends.

One of the rabbis who was supposed to sign the ketubah went to the bathroom or to talk on the phone outside during the signing, so I had to grab another rabbi.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:09 PM

the krum relatives at our wedding were supposed to get sheva brachot for bentching, but then some of them left.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:31 PM

Personally, I think witnesses for the ketuvah are the biggest kibbud since they will be on the ketuvah, and possibly displayed on the dining room wall, forever.
And the eidim, like all eidim, must be of absolutely sterling character ie not passul le'eidut.
Plus one can't claim they were chosen b/c they are related.

That assumes that we are kesuba on teh wall types... I think there's something weird about having your prenup on display.

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 01:48 PM

don't forget witnesses for the secular thing. a lot of people give the kibbud to women for that.

and reading the ketuvah, which apparently a monkey can do.

would have to be a well-trained monkey with a great voice
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:07 PM

yeah. and apparently parrots as well.

can it also do the Imperial March?
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:10 PM

get it to play pachabel's canon and you have a complete wedding package

you would need more than just one parrot to do pachabel properly
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:20 PM

the monkey could play second fiddle

i always thought it was the cat playing the fiddle?
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:51 PM

why do some people frame their kesubas and hang them in the living room and others dont?
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 02:57 PM

Personal predilection and taste that says nothing about the couple other than their desire to do so or not to do so at this time or for other reasons unknown?

theres no thread about this?
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