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Poll: Slide To The Right (13 member(s) have cast votes)

Has there been a slide to the right (aka increase in religiosity) in recent years?

  1. Yes, there has been a slide to the right. (9 votes [69.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.23%

  2. No, things have stayed pretty much the same. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Somewhat, but only in certain geographic areas. (3 votes [23.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 23.08%

  4. Actually there has been a slide to the left. (1 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

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#1 brianna

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 07:55 PM

It seems to me that over the last say fifteen years that has been a slide to the right. People seem to be adopting more chumras than ever before and allowing less and less deviation from what is considered ideal.

1. Am I imagining this or is it a real phenomenon?

2. If this is happening, what are the reasons for it?
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#2 israeli4ever

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:24 PM

Is it a "slide to the right" or a greater polarization of Jewish society? At the same time as people discuss the slide, we also have places that consider themselves Orthodox that are pushing the lines on the left.

There definitely has been a paradigm shift on the RW towards chumra. I have come across at least 2 explanations for this, 1 is the loss of Mesorah as a result of the Holocaust, and 2 I heards a Rabbi saying once that the Briskers started a movement of acting based on text as opposed to Minhag, and the result of that is being machmir on possible misunderstanding. (The rabbis said the part about Brisk, the extension is my understanding)
The isolationist attitude may or may not be worse than in the past, my guess is that at least part of it is a fight against the "Orthodox" that are pushing leftward, and all the slippery slope stuff...
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#3 Shemmy

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:25 PM

I would agree with your perception, but I'm hesitant to actually vote, because I think it's simply a perception and not a measurable phenomenon. Having said that, I would certainly say that there has been a slide to the right within the ranks of Sepahrdim and the Edoth Hamizrah, and we can thank Haham Obadia and Shas for the Haredization of non-Ashkenazic communities :(

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#4 Diogenes The Cynic

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:54 PM

Its a culture war, and the RW Yeshivas won.
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Posted 02 April 2011 - 08:58 PM

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 09:52 PM

I think there's been a slide on both sides. And it isn't a new phenomenon. It waxes and wanes and shifts over time.

How so?
Certainly there is no shortage of married, left-wing harlots who do not cover their hair. Although, they're probably busy sacrificing their children to Ba‛al and filing divorce papers. ~ Milton

"Are you including as shomer negiya someone who is sleeping with his girlfriend but not shaking hands with the car dealer?" ~ Moshi

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 10:18 PM

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Posted 02 April 2011 - 10:39 PM

It seems to me that over the last say fifteen years that has been a slide to the right. People seem to be adopting more chumras than ever before and allowing less and less deviation from what is considered ideal.

1. Am I imagining this or is it a real phenomenon?

2. If this is happening, what are the reasons for it?

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#9 Leah Anderson

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 05:03 PM

It seems to me that over the last say fifteen years that has been a slide to the right. People seem to be adopting more chumras than ever before and allowing less and less deviation from what is considered ideal.

1. Am I imagining this or is it a real phenomenon?

2. If this is happening, what are the reasons for it?


So where do the tuna beigels fit into all this?

#10 brianna

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 06:28 PM

So where do the tuna beigels fit into all this?

Bagels are associated with Jews but they don't have anything to do with the slide to the right as far as I know.
Certainly there is no shortage of married, left-wing harlots who do not cover their hair. Although, they're probably busy sacrificing their children to Ba‛al and filing divorce papers. ~ Milton

"Are you including as shomer negiya someone who is sleeping with his girlfriend but not shaking hands with the car dealer?" ~ Moshi

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#11 Leah Anderson

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Posted 03 April 2011 - 07:08 PM

Bagels are associated with Jews but they don't have anything to do with the slide to the right as far as I know.


this kind of tuna beigel http://www.theyeshiv...is-a-tuna-bagel

#12 HaBenYakirLi

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Posted 05 February 2015 - 04:02 PM

Here's an article from 1994 that said it's been going on for a while ... and has some explanation http://www.bethtfilo.../misc_35307.pdf






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