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#21 Pinchas

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:11 PM

BTs live in Israel for the same reason they became frum: to escape.


Yeah - because no singles live on their own in the UWS... :rolleyes:

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:16 PM

Yeah - because no singles live on their own in the UWS... :rolleyes:

Singles live on the UWS to escape too. :unsure:

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:27 PM

Singles live on the UWS to escape too. :unsure:


That's my point. (You don't have to come to Israel to escape like Sweet wrongly claimed.)

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:30 PM

That's my point. (You don't have to come to Israel to escape like Sweet wrongly claimed.)

Of course. People get married to escape too.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:34 PM

I feel like doing a roundabout of all of your charming posts of the day, Pinchas. You're on quite a roll.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:37 PM

Is wanting to escape Brooklyn really so crazy???
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:46 PM

Look, I'm sure many BTs are for real and get what yiddishkeit is all about and want it despite the challenges it brings.

But for those that think its just about sitting and strumming your guitar and singing about God and walking with him in every part of life and adding holiness and godliness to all you do....Or those who think they will be entering a society that is all good and kind and caring and have their priorities straight and seek to only do good and never do bad all day with perfect Rabbis and leaders to show them the light, they might be in for a sudden and painful awakening when they realize thats not all religious life is cracked up to be.
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 06:57 PM

So why are we assuming that Matisyahu is no longer shomer Torah umitsvoth?

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:07 PM

So why are we assuming that Matisyahu is no longer shomer Torah umitsvoth?

If he is, he won't be for long...
That is my predictio, I hope he proves KR wrong...
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:18 PM

Look, I'm sure many BTs are for real and get what yiddishkeit is all about and want it despite the challenges it brings.

But for those that think its just about sitting and strumming your guitar and singing about God and walking with him in every part of life and adding holiness and godliness to all you do....Or those who think they will be entering a society that is all good and kind and caring and have their priorities straight and seek to only do good and never do bad all day with perfect Rabbis and leaders to show them the light, they might be in for a sudden and painful awakening when they realize thats not all religious life is cracked up to be.

Or maybe now that he's rich and famous there are some groupies he wants to ###### and had he just been some guy on the block he would still be frum and happy with his wife and kids and whatever else he had in his life.

So why are we assuming that Matisyahu is no longer shomer Torah umitsvoth?

We're not assuming, we're inferring.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:24 PM

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:30 PM

Or maybe now that he's rich and famous there are some groupies he wants to ###### and had he just been some guy on the block he would still be frum and happy with his wife and kids and whatever else he had in his life.


So you're saying that he's going OTD so he can ##### some groupies?? That's a little ridiculous, don't you think?

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:36 PM

So you're saying that he's going OTD so he can ##### some groupies?? That's a little ridiculous, don't you think?

Yeah he can just "stay frum" and do that :pardon:
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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:37 PM

So you're saying that he's going OTD so he can ##### some groupies?? That's a little ridiculous, don't you think?

I'm saying -- in contrast with LTL's blaming frum society for this -- that being rich and famous messes with your head.

#35 LoveToLaugh

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:37 PM

So why are we assuming that Matisyahu is no longer shomer Torah umitsvoth?

I'm not, definitely not at this point. He still has a religious wife and kids and just becuase you shave a beard it doesnt mean you dropped everything.

Or maybe now that he's rich and famous there are some groupies he wants to ###### and had he just been some guy on the block he would still be frum and happy with his wife and kids and whatever else he had in his life.

I'm not just talking about him now, I'm talking in general.
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Ability to feel your love for us and our love for each other and the
Strength to get up and try again even when we feel it is hopeless.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:41 PM

You hardly need to be rich and famous to want to ######.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:42 PM

I'm not just talking about him now, I'm talking in general.

This thread about Matisyahu. If you want to talk about BT-to-OTD's in general, take it to another thread. Matisyahu is clearly a special case.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:43 PM

I'm saying -- in contrast with LTL's blaming frum society for this -- that being rich and famous messes with your head.


Aren't you being a bit presumptive? You don't even know him.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:44 PM

Aren't you being a bit presumptive? You don't even know him.

You don't have to know somebody personally to know that being rich and famous messes with your head.

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Posted 13 December 2011 - 07:45 PM

You don't have to know somebody personally to know that being rich and famous messes with your head.


Do all rich and famous people go OTD?




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