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#1 Zicher

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:17 PM

http://shulywigs.com/innerindex.php
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Please tell me how anyone can consider this as promoting tznius.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:23 PM

Who said anything about tznius?

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:28 PM

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:29 PM

Who said wigs are about tznius?

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:31 PM

Do I call what tznius? Professional models making wigs look good in order to entice women to buy them?

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:32 PM

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:34 PM

Shuly has made an extensive effort to market her wigs to the fashion industry in addition to the frum community. There is no requirement for her to "promote tznius" while selling her product, and such an approach would almost certainly alienate her non-jewish clientele.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 03:50 PM

You mean the faces? Because it is not appropriate to see women's faces as per the new OPS directives?

Or the wigs? Those are obviously Shalom Bayis Wigs. Like Shalom Bayis Lingerie. Meant to be worn only in the bedroom on mikvah night. With the lights out in complete darkness.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 04:40 PM

Its marketed to women. Why should it have to be tziniut? Women can see basically whatever they want.
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 04:48 PM

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 04:50 PM

Its marketed to women. Why should it have to be tziniut? Women can see basically whatever they want.


If men lust with their eyes while women lust with their ears, then shouldn't romance novels be prohibited for women? You know, the ones with half naked muscular men on their covers.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 04:53 PM

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 05:38 PM

You mean the faces? Because it is not appropriate to see women's faces as per the new OPS directives?

Or the wigs? Those are obviously Shalom Bayis Wigs. Like Shalom Bayis Lingerie. Meant to be worn only in the bedroom on mikvah night. With the lights out in complete darkness.

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If men lust with their eyes while women lust with their ears, then shouldn't romance novels be prohibited for women? You know, the ones with half naked muscular men on their covers.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 06:47 PM

If men lust with their eyes while women lust with their ears, then shouldn't romance novels be prohibited for women? You know, the ones with half naked muscular men on their covers.


Well we are not prohibited to do what reading erotica might lead to...

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 07:01 PM

Well we are not prohibited to do what reading erotica might lead to...


The reason men are not allowed to look at untznius images is because of hirhurim (licentious thoughts), and not necessarily that it might lead to masturbation. The same should apply to women reading erotica - if it puts licentious thoughts into their heads.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 07:05 PM

:huh2: :huh2:

I'm sure you have a Chosson Teacher for these kinds of things, but don't worry too much about it. As long as the sheet is opaque, you can have some light....
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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:16 PM

The reason men are not allowed to look at untznius images is because of hirhurim (licentious thoughts), and not necessarily that it might lead to masturbation.

Wrong. Hirhurim and other things are prohibited so that there is no zera levatalah. Be it automatic or manual.

The same should apply to women reading erotica - if it puts licentious thoughts into their heads.

There is no practical halachic reason this is assur. Other than giving the woman thoughts of infidelity etc.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:20 PM

Wrong. Hirhurim and other things are prohibited so that there is no zera levatalah. Be it automatic or manual.


So if you know you will definitely not have zera levatala, are you allowed to have hirhurim then? I don't think so.

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:24 PM

So if you know you will definitely not have zera levatala, are you allowed to have hirhurim then? I don't think so.

How would you know this?

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 10:26 PM

I'm sure you have a Chosson Teacher for these kinds of things, but don't worry too much about it. As long as the sheet is opaque, you can have some light....

i was planning on using H.com as a chosson teacher....
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