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#1 Elana

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 10:10 PM

i think he is the first one. and he is chassidishe (from what i see), TDP!! ;)

In a blockbuster Interview with Zev Brenner on Talkline this past Motzei Shabbos, Rabbi Osher Shapiro explained how the internet is not the reason for the ever growing problem of at risk teens that plagues society. Rabbi Shapiro, who lives in Stamford Hill London, is the son of the Naroler Rebbe Rabbi Berish Shapiro Shlita, in addition to being a well known mechanech and founder of Kol Bonayich, a United Kingdom based outreach organization.
In fact, Rabbi Shapiro placed the blame for the younger generation’s fascination with the internet squarely on the shoulders of those who issued internet bans and said that the act of banning something such as the internet or a concert only increases its appeal. According to Rabbi Shapiro the internet, like the telephone, the radio or the cell phone, is an instrument that was, at first, met with great trepidation by many in the Jewish community, but when used properly can become an integral and appropriate part of our lives.


http://www.vosizneia...-not-the-answer

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 11:58 PM

i think he is the first one. and he is chassidishe (from what i see), TDP!! ;)



http://www.vosizneia...-not-the-answer

the interview is in the link

I like him... so far.
Especially as compared with the other R Shapiro who is referenced here from time to time...
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#3 DQ

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 12:01 AM

I think he might be onto something.

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 02:30 AM

Especially as compared with the other R Shapiro who is referenced here from time to time...


Oh G-d, don't start this. You'll get banned as well... :ninja:

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:32 PM

i think he is the first one. and he is chassidishe (from what i see), TDP!! ;)



http://www.vosizneia...-not-the-answer

the interview is in the link


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#6 Red Hare

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:15 PM

i think he is the first one. and he is chassidishe (from what i see), TDP!! ;)


Plenty of chassidsiche people have not banned and use the internet. I use the internet. I'm chassidische.
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 03:18 AM

:rolleyes: Chabad is not chassidische...

(For this purpose anyway...)

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#8 SUMMERSUP

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:40 AM

Um, I thought this whole thing on internet was about just putting a block on bad sites(i forgot the name of ths program thing). I don't see the problem. it's kinda smart..
I dont beleive that this is the same as the concert or tv ban. Those things are not like internet. Internet is more like the telephone, we as humans of this time need internet for work and many other things. It's something they cannot ban so rather they are just saying filter it.. I kinda get it. Except we should choose what we want filltered

#9 Red Hare

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 09:43 AM

What are bad sites?

If you're in nursing school or just want medical knowledge, those are often blocked by filters.
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 10:49 AM

What are bad sites?

If you're in nursing school or just want medical knowledge, those are often blocked by filters.


Right so they should I personally only block porn and um i don't know what else...like it should be a personalization option.
If you don't want to have hulu or something else depending on your religious level.

#11 Red Hare

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:07 AM

But filters don't or at least they can't.

And some people don't want their kids playing around online, and finding medical sites. They have pictures, you know.
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#12 SUMMERSUP

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:46 AM

So, Have a password which blocks certain cites or logins for certain members. Make a login which has the personalized setting for each user?

Also I was just thinking about it..soon we will all need to have internet filters because we wont be able to know what people can see. like pictures etc. So we will all have to jump on the band wagon because if you cant see it then you know they cant aswell..

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:35 PM

how about: (wait for it - ) common sense! yes, use the internet for what you need (and/or want) but not for bad stuff. If you find that you have a hard time resisting the temptation to go to certain sites (for example, porn or other forms of pritzus) then get a filter and customize the settings to only block that type of content.
If you have children who know how to use the computer, setting up a filter is important, but training them how to use the internet responsibly is also important. The filter is supposed to be a safeguard against a momentary lapse of judgement, not a 'be all, end all' solution.
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Posted 20 July 2012 - 07:39 AM

how about: (wait for it - ) common sense! yes, use the internet for what you need (and/or want) but not for bad stuff. If you find that you have a hard time resisting the temptation to go to certain sites (for example, porn or other forms of pritzus) then get a filter and customize the settings to only block that type of content.
If you have children who know how to use the computer, setting up a filter is important, but training them how to use the internet responsibly is also important. The filter is supposed to be a safeguard against a momentary lapse of judgement, not a 'be all, end all' solution.

Now you're just talking crazy.... Using common sense? Talking to your kids? Who does that?
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