Should women be held to higher standards than men?
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, Mar 04 2012 12:32 AM
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 01:20 AM
It's 1:00 in the morning, how did you beat me? Were you waiting for it to become 12:01 so you could post? lol
I think not higher standards, but different standards. It's comparing apples and oranges. If a man is dressed a bit blandly or has dirt under his nails I would not consider that strange or "low". Yet with a woman it would seem a bit off.
At the same time women typically can have little to not motivation career wise and this can be considered acceptable whereas it would seem a bit unacceptable in a man. I can't think of any better examples right now...
I think for example, if a woman sleeps with another person it is more offensive than if a man did it. Whereas a man being cheap on a date or towards his wife is less acceptable than a woman expecting others to pay for her etc.
I think not higher standards, but different standards. It's comparing apples and oranges. If a man is dressed a bit blandly or has dirt under his nails I would not consider that strange or "low". Yet with a woman it would seem a bit off.
At the same time women typically can have little to not motivation career wise and this can be considered acceptable whereas it would seem a bit unacceptable in a man. I can't think of any better examples right now...
I think for example, if a woman sleeps with another person it is more offensive than if a man did it. Whereas a man being cheap on a date or towards his wife is less acceptable than a woman expecting others to pay for her etc.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 01:23 AM
What the bleep is going on here? I thought this first post was Purim shtick - and now we're seriously dignifying it with a this backward response. Sheesh.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 02:17 AM
I have no idea what is going on at any given moment.
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 03:56 PM
OP still stands. Not shtick. Ongoing argument with my fiancee...
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 04:27 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say HIGHER standards, but certainly DIFFERENT ones...
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 06:18 PM
Absolutely not. Why would you ask that?Should women be held to higher standards than men?
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Posted 04 March 2012 - 08:20 PM
Moses was held to the highest standard and he was also called the meekest man in the world.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:30 AM
No.Should women be held to higher standards than men?
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 09:40 AM
In the redemption price it was 30 shekels for women and 50 shekels for men. Men have to pay a higher price.
It isn't an ego thing either, quite the opposite. It reflects Adams answer to God after the sin.
It isn't an ego thing either, quite the opposite. It reflects Adams answer to God after the sin.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:26 PM
We can say different does not equal higher, but it's just semantics.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:37 PM
In the end, everyone is judged by the same standards. By the measure of your choosing, the standards are set.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:45 PM
No it's not because it totally depends on the issue. SOMETIMES Men are held to a "higher" standard and sometimes chicks are, but there is no rule across the board...We can say different does not equal higher, but it's just semantics.
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 04:55 PM
For example?No it's not because it totally depends on the issue. SOMETIMES Men are held to a "higher" standard and sometimes chicks are, but there is no rule across the board...
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Posted 05 March 2012 - 10:36 PM
That's absurd.We can say different does not equal higher, but it's just semantics.
Different does not mean that one is overall "higher".
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 12:29 PM
But sometimes it does. And sometimes it doesn't.
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Posted 06 March 2012 - 04:54 PM
Which makes your previous statement about semantics incorrect.But sometimes it does. And sometimes it doesn't.
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 03:05 PM
Sometimes things are just semantics and sometimes they aren't.
"There's a stroller called Phil and Ted's? Is that the kind for most excellent adventuresome babies?" Sweet
"I discovered that all the participating members here are 'black sheep' in their own circles. On Hashkafah.com, the mainstream is truly wacked." Silent J
"H.com becomes a proverbial Hotel California for many of us" Nooch
"I discovered that all the participating members here are 'black sheep' in their own circles. On Hashkafah.com, the mainstream is truly wacked." Silent J
"H.com becomes a proverbial Hotel California for many of us" Nooch
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Posted 08 March 2012 - 05:56 PM
Exactly.Sometimes things are just semantics and sometimes they aren't.
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Posted 09 March 2012 - 04:58 PM
oh, ok
"There's a stroller called Phil and Ted's? Is that the kind for most excellent adventuresome babies?" Sweet
"I discovered that all the participating members here are 'black sheep' in their own circles. On Hashkafah.com, the mainstream is truly wacked." Silent J
"H.com becomes a proverbial Hotel California for many of us" Nooch
"I discovered that all the participating members here are 'black sheep' in their own circles. On Hashkafah.com, the mainstream is truly wacked." Silent J
"H.com becomes a proverbial Hotel California for many of us" Nooch
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